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Old 09-09-2014, 10:54 AM
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When the article stated she had no insurance so couldn't get it done at a local hospital I thought it likely she was headed to Planned Parenthood in Harrisburg. I also presumed it likely the teen had no or very little income and would qualify for a 'free' procedure. Free as in paid for by someone else. Here locally a woman can qualify if yearly income is less than $17K and not only get contraception coverage but also general gyno care including checkups.

Get pregnant and want to keep the baby Planned Parenthood is out and the State takes over and not only is all healthcare 'free' they actually pay the teen mother money, give her and her baby 'free' or subsidized housing, 'free' food and a cell phone with 'free' 300 messages/month. Free as in paid for by someone else.

Incidentally that someone else is the taxpayer who has the undue burden of paying taxes on virtually anything everything he/she does or purchases. And now that same taxpayer has the undue burden of paying for illegals who are invading for the 'free' shiat we're giving away.

I can't help but wonder if the daughter had needed her tonsils out whether the mother would have googled tonsillectomy, ordered some tools and drugs on the internet and gone to work as a surgeon?
I need to see links with proof that a woman making under $17k qualifies for "free" abortions at clinics in Illinois. Otherwise you're just making that up.

According to the PP webpage, cost ranges from $300 to $1700 for a first-trimester abortion in a clinic, and will be more expensive in a hospital.

In PA, in addition to the cost of transportation to a clinic over an hour's drive away, there is also a mandatory 24 hour waiting period, which means the mother is out two days of work, and must make the almost 150 mile round trip to Harrisburg twice.

If the daughter needed a tonsillectomy it's entirely possible Medicaid would have covered the procedure. But, as it was an abortion that was needed, there were no state funds available.

Here's the thing- it was incredibly irresponsible for the mother to administer those drugs without a doctor. But that's what is going to happen as reproductive rights continue to get slashed in this nation. Women will do what they did before it was legal; they will get abortions illegally, or mutilate themselves in an attempt to terminate the pregnancy. And some will die. And since the majority of women who get abortions already have at least one child, that will mean more minor children that will become wards of the state, and your tax dollars can pay for them.

Frankly, you're a man, and there's just no way for you comprehend the sheer scale of desperation experienced by a woman who is pregnant and does not want to be. It is outside your capability to experience, so you either can't comprehend, or refuse to comprehend that women will kill themselves in an effort to terminate a pregnancy. Safe, legal and inexpensive access to abortion is a public health necessity. Along, of course, with mandatory birth control education and cheap (preferably free) access to birth control for both men and women.

And of course, as this woman is being sent to jail, her daughter is now I imagine going to foster care, which is also going to cost the taxpayer.
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