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Beholder 28 50.00%
Princess Of Sylmar 28 50.00%
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:55 AM
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Beholder.............Champion 2yr old filly.........Champion 3yr old filly........It is not easy beating the current Champion, even impossible to deny her after yesterdays performance.................sorry for POS, she should have stayed home and then it might have been a close contest, but now she loses the crown to Beholder........that is the way it is......... Congrats to The Champ
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:05 AM
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PS: side note.........Beholder is the FIRST filly in Breeders Cup History, to win the Juvenile Filly and return The following year to win The Distaff..........
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:53 AM
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The East Coast racing establishment, annoited POS champion because she ran down Delta Princess. Then when the both of them get demolished, by Beholder, the excuses come. No different than the Super Bowl. It is only one game, winner takes all. Do we deny wildcard teams that when the game their crown? Or do we claim because Team A was 15-1 during the regular season the Champs? No different yesterday. Just remember when the scrutiny gets higher, the less the Pletcher horses run. Just look at the results.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:23 PM
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The East Coast racing establishment, annoited POS champion because she ran down Delta Princess. Then when the both of them get demolished, by Beholder, the excuses come. No different than the Super Bowl. It is only one game, winner takes all. Do we deny wildcard teams that when the game their crown? Or do we claim because Team A was 15-1 during the regular season the Champs? No different yesterday. Just remember when the scrutiny gets higher, the less the Pletcher horses run. Just look at the results.
who is delta princess? i don't think anyone anointed a horse, i think princess came is as favorite for year end honors.
and i completely disagree about it all being about the one day. it's supposed to be awards for a season-and racing has nothing in common with football, and horses certainly don't know that one race is supposed to mean more than another.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:49 AM
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If POS never ran in the BC she would likely have been 3-year old champ. However based on the result of the BC race , the the horses she beat and the way she won, Ky Oaks aside where she only lost head to head by 1/2 length and my have had excuses that day based on her campaign where she now has 4 G1s beating older horses twice, this year Beholder is my choice.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:29 AM
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No different than the Super Bowl. It is only one game, winner takes all.
This kind of nonsense drives me nuts.
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:13 PM
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This kind of nonsense drives me nuts.


the name notwithstanding, the bc is not the decider for year-end awards. you get a trophy and a nice check for a win on bc day, but it's not meant to be THE race to give away yearly championships. it's not a superbowl, there are no playoffs to get here.
imo, too much focus is on one race by many voters, who know nothing about what happened the rest of the year. bad enough that know-nothing voters weight the day too much, but to have 'fans' who are supposed to know better doing the same...inexcusable.
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:29 PM
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POS win against Royal Delta doesnt look as good does it?
I think this is a good point, much of that win was based on Royal Delta and she clearly has lost a step.
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:46 PM
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I think this is a good point, much of that win was based on Royal Delta and she clearly has lost a step.
So then wouldn't Beholder's win not look as good since she beat an over the hill Royal Delta and a Princess of Sylmar who didn't show up with her best?

To be clear, I don't think this, but isn't it the same thing?
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:50 PM
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So then wouldn't Beholder's win not look as good since she beat an over the hill Royal Delta and a Princess of Sylmar who didn't show up with her best?

To be clear, I don't think this, but isn't it the same thing?
Sure, everyone said Royal Delta ran well in the Beldame, thinking maybe she did not. I think Authenticity ran well, and so did Close Hatches, who beat POS ealier this year.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:23 PM
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JFC.

Royal Delta is the most overrated, and always has been the most overrated filly/mare, since Zenyatta.

And Zenyatta would probably have trounced Royal Delta.
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