Breeders' Cup 2014

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by pweizer

As someone who has been to many Breeder's Cups, Santa Anita is far and away the best option. Great location, great weather, dirt track again, easy access from multiple airports and tons of hotel rooms nearby.

I, too, like the idea of moving around to new tracks. But, other than Gulfstream (which is no longer an option), what other site can give you all of the above?

That said, for those upset now, I would bet that it moves the following year but stays in California and is held at Del Mar.

Paul

Why is great weather a must? Plenty of very good races have been run on cold and/or wet days.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Why is great weather a must? Plenty of very good races have been run on cold and/or wet days.

i can see if the climate in ky and ny kept the bc committee from considering tracks there...

but what about arlington, or a fla track, or back to texas? monmouth, woodbine?

the whole point of the day(s) was to support breeders all over the country, which was why they wanted the change of venue every year. so much for that.

but like so many other things any more, it's probably mainly about the bottom line now. not what's best for the sport, the horsemen, but what's best for the entity known as breeders cup and it's profit margin. it's no longer interested in continuing it's original mission, now it's just another business enterprise.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Why is great weather a must? Plenty of very good races have been run on cold and/or wet days.

like if were at the Spa ?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

like if were at the Spa ?

I didn't say in a blizzard.

[Alabama Stakes]

hasn't been snow there yet during Breeders Cup in 10 years, actually been pleasant, but hossplayers aren't afraid of a little cold weather.

[10 pnt move up]

I feel like the elephant in the room is do these tracks really want the Breeders Cup? If they lose money on them why? I thought CD only wanted it because the City of Louisville provided them a government hand out for hosting it, that has run out in 2010, strangely they have hardly been aggressively negotiating the return, at least I get that from reading between the lines. NYRA is in a tough position to take on something that may be a loss leader just to say they have it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I feel like the elephant in the room is do these tracks really want the Breeders Cup? If they lose money on them why? I thought CD only wanted it because the City of Louisville provided them a government hand out for hosting it, that has run out in 2010, strangely they have hardly been aggressively negotiating the return, at least I get that from reading between the lines. NYRA is in a tough position to take on something that may be a loss leader just to say they have it.

since monmouth, churchill, belmont and others continue to petition for it, one must assume they want it.

since it's not due to handle and attendance, as santa anita isn't the leader in either area, what is it? nbc covers the derby, so it's not like they can't get to louisville.
bcl isn't telling the whole story. someone is paying them the money to more than make up handle/attendance differential.
in the words of danny devito in johnny dangerously, someone is 'playing ball'. it's not the weather, the locale, etc....isn't it always about the money?? wonder what mr. gaines would say.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

since monmouth, churchill, belmont and others continue to petition for it, one must assume they want it.

Monmouth will never get it again after the debacle last time.

Andy I would imagine they petition for it to save face with the horseman, look if NYRA really wanted this thing they would have had it by now, IMO.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

hasn't been snow there yet during Breeders Cup in 10 years, actually been pleasant, but hossplayers aren't afraid of a little cold weather.

This has been discussed a million times already, on top of weather, it was logistics and size of venue for the reasons why Saratoga has no shot in hosting it.