Breeders' Cup 2014

[pweizer]

As someone who has been to many Breeder's Cups, Santa Anita is far and away the best option. Great location, great weather, dirt track again, easy access from multiple airports and tons of hotel rooms nearby.

I, too, like the idea of moving around to new tracks. But, other than Gulfstream (which is no longer an option), what other site can give you all of the above?

That said, for those upset now, I would bet that it moves the following year but stays in California and is held at Del Mar.

Paul

[Cannon Shell]

Isn't Stronach spending $700 million or so to revamp GP with some sort of temp seating, build hotels and some other nonsense to get the BC to S. FL?


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...et-for-apr-nov

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Isn't Stronach spending $700 million or so to revamp GP with some sort of temp seating, build hotels and some other nonsense to get the BC to S. FL?


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...et-for-apr-nov

If this happens, they will get a Breeder's Cup for sure. It would be a great spot too.

Paul

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by pweizer

If this happens, they will get a Breeder's Cup for sure. It would be a great spot too.

Paul

The '99 BC with the 3 day 'mini meet' was fabulous. Track was inside speed-biased for the Cup, but was one of my favorite BC's... (and I was working the Barbecue the whole time.)

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Kasept

The '99 BC with the 3 day 'mini meet' was fabulous. Track was inside speed-biased for the Cup, but was one of my favorite BC's... (and I was working the Barbecue the whole time.)

Redboard.....Epic day at the windows for me. Silic and Anees.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Redboard.....Epic day at the windows for me. Silic and Anees.

......worst cup ever, took such a massive beating.

[Honu]

Monmouth sucked.......rain, bad track and soggy turf course. The staff in the grandstand was not even close to ready when the gates opened, no food ready at all. Paddock is way to small and so is the grandstand.....yeah they put up bleachers to house the crowd but it was pretty hard to get people to go sit in them in the rain. I dont really think people wanna be bottled up inside with no elbow room so they dont have to stand in the rain, no umbrellas allowed.
I can see why S.A. is the perfect spot.....5 airports within 30 mins, almost 99% chance there will be sunshine. Grandstand is big enough to handle the crowd and then there is always the infield.
Besides the races there are numerous things to see and do and places to stay and go eat all with in walking and driving distance of the track. BIG BONUS!!!!! They are extending the gold line of rail out past the track that will take you right into downtown LA.
Until there is a better venue I can see SA getting the BC most years.

It seems that the BC is a punishment and not a reward to the Host track. In this case SA being chosen 3 yrs in a row is probably punishment for installing a synthetic track 2007-2010.

[Storm Cadet]

Oh. And I can't wait for Satish to comment if he comes on Steve's show this week regarding the decision to go back to SA

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Cardus

"'In addition to being the two-greatest days in Thoroughbred racing, hosting the Breeders’ Cup at Santa Anita for the next two years provides us with the opportunity to further develop the Breeders’ Cup brand as a world class entertainment and lifestyle platform,” said Drew Sheinman, Breeders’ Cup Senior Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer."

What is a "lifestyle platform"? Anyone?

I cannot take this BC crowd seriously with sh-t like this.

agree

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Why is great weather a must? Plenty of very good races have been run on cold and/or wet days.

since attendance at churchill are higher than at other tracks (whether back in the one-day bc, or now) i agree about the weather completely. it's obviously not a deciding factor.



http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...ucky-tax-break

'Churchill’s two most recent years as host — 2010 and 2011 — were the best attended and most wagered upon since the Breeders’ Cup went to a two-day format in 2007.'


if the attendance and handle are higher at churchill than anywhere, why keep it at santa anita? the more i find about this, the less sense i can make of the decision. bcl gets the handle cut, why would they not want to race where they get the biggest check, if money is the issue?

[Frost King]

Woodbine is out, along with any slot track. Since installing the slots, attendance capacities have been limited, and the Breeder's Cup wants the slots to be shutdown during their occupation of the plant. So that is not going to happen to any slot venue.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by pweizer

As someone who has been to many Breeder's Cups, Santa Anita is far and away the best option. Great location, great weather, dirt track again, easy access from multiple airports and tons of hotel rooms nearby.

I, too, like the idea of moving around to new tracks. But, other than Gulfstream (which is no longer an option), what other site can give you all of the above?

That said, for those upset now, I would bet that it moves the following year but stays in California and is held at Del Mar.

Paul

Why is great weather a must? Plenty of very good races have been run on cold and/or wet days.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Why is great weather a must? Plenty of very good races have been run on cold and/or wet days.

i can see if the climate in ky and ny kept the bc committee from considering tracks there...

but what about arlington, or a fla track, or back to texas? monmouth, woodbine?

the whole point of the day(s) was to support breeders all over the country, which was why they wanted the change of venue every year. so much for that.

but like so many other things any more, it's probably mainly about the bottom line now. not what's best for the sport, the horsemen, but what's best for the entity known as breeders cup and it's profit margin. it's no longer interested in continuing it's original mission, now it's just another business enterprise.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Why is great weather a must? Plenty of very good races have been run on cold and/or wet days.

like if were at the Spa ?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

like if were at the Spa ?

I didn't say in a blizzard.

[Alabama Stakes]

hasn't been snow there yet during Breeders Cup in 10 years, actually been pleasant, but hossplayers aren't afraid of a little cold weather.

[10 pnt move up]

I feel like the elephant in the room is do these tracks really want the Breeders Cup? If they lose money on them why? I thought CD only wanted it because the City of Louisville provided them a government hand out for hosting it, that has run out in 2010, strangely they have hardly been aggressively negotiating the return, at least I get that from reading between the lines. NYRA is in a tough position to take on something that may be a loss leader just to say they have it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I feel like the elephant in the room is do these tracks really want the Breeders Cup? If they lose money on them why? I thought CD only wanted it because the City of Louisville provided them a government hand out for hosting it, that has run out in 2010, strangely they have hardly been aggressively negotiating the return, at least I get that from reading between the lines. NYRA is in a tough position to take on something that may be a loss leader just to say they have it.

since monmouth, churchill, belmont and others continue to petition for it, one must assume they want it.

since it's not due to handle and attendance, as santa anita isn't the leader in either area, what is it? nbc covers the derby, so it's not like they can't get to louisville.
bcl isn't telling the whole story. someone is paying them the money to more than make up handle/attendance differential.
in the words of danny devito in johnny dangerously, someone is 'playing ball'. it's not the weather, the locale, etc....isn't it always about the money?? wonder what mr. gaines would say.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

hasn't been snow there yet during Breeders Cup in 10 years, actually been pleasant, but hossplayers aren't afraid of a little cold weather.

This has been discussed a million times already, on top of weather, it was logistics and size of venue for the reasons why Saratoga has no shot in hosting it.