GP P6 carryover

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Phil, I've seen that bet pay less than the parlay when a couple of improbable longshots win.

There was nothing even remotely special about that Santa Anita p5 I posted. The point was that it transformed a sequence of mostly terrible non-competitive betting races with small fields and hopeless toss-outs into an advantageous situation.

The Gulfstream p6 is generally made up of several attractive betting races with large fields, often wide-open races.

The more sensible thing to do is to target the race or two in the sequence where you most have an edge.

Of course that happens, it happens in multi race wagers all the time. If pool size < parlay it is guaranteed to happen. Hell Even the lowest day relative to parlay at SA was "normal" results (2 2-1, 2 4-1, 1 11-1).

The p5 at SA is obviously a good wager with the low takeout, I'm not suggesting otherwise. But we completely disagree what constitutes worthwhile sequences for multi race wagers. I'm looking for difficult sequences where I can possibly hit a separator horse or two. Singling the same horse as everyone else in a mundane sequence doesn't help me.

If you play the pick 6... And have scrutinized every race, who's to say you can't play the races individually as well?

[tector]

And it survives another day.

So we only have to dodge 4 more days. Obviously a goodly amount of money should go in tomorrow, Florida Derby day. And with many tracks not running Easter Sunday, it should take a lot of money then, too.

A carryover into the final day (if it happens) should be over $2 million--unless people hold back the last couple of days to try to crush it closing day, which could increase the odds of a single ticket winner.

Some effed up psychology on this bet....

[tector]

Only 2 days left to dodge. C/O now near $1.8m.

[JSwiss]

Originally Posted by tector

Only 2 days left to dodge. C/O now near $1.8m.

I'm not sure what rhyme or reason they are using to get here but people are throwing around the $8 million number for total pool on Friday if it gets there.

Update:

I think the Rainbow 6 has gotten more popular since it was introduced but I went back and looked in 2011 they had a $1.4m carryover to the final day and the total pool was right around $3.6m - still not sure it can get as high as numbers I've seen this year... and thats with groups like Twinspires who put $100,000 in the players pool and lost 94% of it... Don't see that happening again.

[Clip-Clop]

Just looked in my wallet from this weekend in Vegas and found a 5 of 6 ticket from the Venetian for Saturday. Couldn't find any payoffs for the consolation, does this bet not pay for 5 out of 6? I was hoping to cash on my next trip.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Just looked in my wallet from this weekend in Vegas and found a 5 of 6 ticket from the Venetian for Saturday. Couldn't find any payoffs for the consolation, does this bet not pay for 5 out of 6? I was hoping to cash on my next trip.

I don't think they pay 5 of 6 because with the ten cent increment, im pretty sure it's been hit with multiple tickets every day other than when the jackpot was scooped.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I don't think they pay 5 of 6 because with the ten cent increment, im pretty sure it's been hit with multiple tickets every day other than when the jackpot was scooped.

Probably right, thanks.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Just looked in my wallet from this weekend in Vegas and found a 5 of 6 ticket from the Venetian for Saturday. Couldn't find any payoffs for the consolation, does this bet not pay for 5 out of 6? I was hoping to cash on my next trip.

5/6 only pays when there's 1 or 0 6/6 tickets. The only exception may be closing day.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

5/6 only pays when there's 1 or 0 6/6 tickets. The only exception may be closing day.

I was afraid of that, I just looked up the rules and it says just that, bummer. Seems like a lot of players missed leg 2, including me.