DRF has a poll -- Bernardini is still most popular - Page 2

Sightseek · #21 12-22-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, I didn't consider Sighty's theory as well.

Sighty's theory makes the most sense, now that I think about it, since I guess it's possible to think Invasor ducked Bernardini in a race that was possible for both to be in.

Wait, didn't Invasor win the Suburban too?

Wow, this is confusing!

If I guessed right can you convince Andy to send me an autographed 2013 NYRA calendar?

cmorioles · #22 12-22-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think he is confused.

I'm sure he was thinking of the Whitney, but how it was Invasor ducking a race that he actually won is a bit puzzling.

He is obviously thinking of the JCGC, but that is at Belmont.

cmorioles · #23 12-22-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I didn't bet on Bernardini in the BC Classic and I didn't rate him quite as high as some did...but I do believe he was best in that race. I think any competent trip handicapper would agree.

No, not really. I think if Bernardini was in his normal position, since the pace was pretty hot, he still would have been run down by Invasor. I could be wrong, but I don't think it is clear either way. Invasor's versatility was proven, Bernardini's wasn't.

blackthroatedwind · #24 12-22-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

If I guessed right can you convince Andy to send me an autographed 2013 NYRA calendar?

I am sure he was thinking about Invasor scratching from the Gold Cup with a fake fever.

blackthroatedwind · #25 12-22-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

No, not really. I think if Bernardini was in his normal position, since the pace was pretty hot, he still would have been run down by Invasor. I could be wrong, but I don't think it is clear either way. Invasor's versatility was proven, Bernardini's wasn't.

I agree with Doug. Castellano panicked, thinking he wasn't running, and asked WAY too soon. I made plenty of money with Invasor winning, but he shouldn't have.

cmorioles · #26 12-22-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree with Doug. Castellano panicked, thinking he wasn't running, and asked WAY too soon. I made plenty of money with Invasor winning, but he shouldn't have.

Certainly possible, but did we have any proof Bernardini could win from that position in a route? Very few horses with his style are successful with that maneuver.

blackthroatedwind · #27 12-22-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Certainly possible, but did we have any proof Bernardini could win from that position in a route? Very few horses with his style are successful with that maneuver.

He lost by a half length, after a premature move, which is enough proof for me, even though I get your point.

Sightseek · #28 12-22-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am sure he was thinking about Invasor scratching from the Gold Cup with a fake fever.

Does this mean I get the autographed calendar?

cmorioles · #29 12-22-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He lost by a half length, after a premature move, which is enough proof for me, even though I get your point.

I'm on my phone so I'm not looking up a chart, but wasn't it more than a half?

blackthroatedwind · #30 12-22-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm on my phone so I'm not looking up a chart, but wasn't it more than a half?

Not much if it was.

blackthroatedwind · #31 12-22-2012, 09:56 PM

I just looked it up....one length.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #32 12-23-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am sure he was thinking about Invasor scratching from the Gold Cup with a fake fever.

yes..

citycat · #33 12-23-2012, 01:24 PM

Malibu Moon/Harlan's Holiday/Broken Vow/ Afleet Alex are all good choices for her.

Calzone Lord · #34 12-23-2012, 03:57 PM

Here is one turf horse who should have ducked Bernardini...

Danehill's usually suck hard on the dirt compared to turf. Frankel was Galileo on top and Danehill on the bottom ... it's hard to imagine a pedigree any more slanted to turf VS dirt.

GPK · #35 12-23-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Here is one turf horse who should have ducked English Channel

Danehill's usually suck hard on the dirt compared to turf. Frankel was Galileo on top and Danehill on the bottom ... it's hard to imagine a pedigree any more slanted to turf VS dirt.

FTFY

clambeau · #36 12-23-2012, 08:00 PM

Maybe a good idea for you for Xmas is a subscription for DRF Braille PP's...maybe you would'nt be so confused

MaTH716 · #37 12-28-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Meanwhile, among the most surprising of this years obscure first-crop sires is the relative pile of crap racehorse Frost Giant (who raced for Dutrow Jr.)

He's only had 14 starters -- but they've combined to win 16 of 46 races for a dazzling 35% win percentage.

After their debut, they're 13-for-32 (41% wins) and they've stretched out fine so far, winning 4 of 9 route attempts.

He's based in New York ... two of his 14 horses to race so far have already earned over 175K.

I still think he's quite overpriced at his $7,500 stud fee. He is Frost Giant, afterall... AKA the horse who single handedly ruined the Grade 1 status of the most historic New York stakes race, the Suburban Handicap...probably forever.

Has one in the 3rd at Aqueduct tomorrow.