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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Manziel got arrested in July in an incident in which racial slurs were used by his buddy, doesn't seem like a guy heisman worthy.

ok, ndfan. do you feel you should be held responsible for the actions of a buddy?
hell, cam newton was a thief, didn't keep him from winning. but a guy who was with a guy who said some things, that should keep manziel from winning?

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

ok, ndfan. do you feel you should be held responsible for the actions of a buddy?
hell, cam newton was a thief, didn't keep him from winning. but a guy who was with a guy who said some things, that should keep manziel from winning?

No but he was arrested for getting in a fight with the guy the racial slurs were directed at, he's not innocent in all this.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

No but he was arrested for getting in a fight the racial slurs were directed at, he's not innocent in all this.

you're reaching.

''He was charged with misdemeanors including disorderly conduct, failure to identify and possessing false I.D.'' egads, why is he not in jail????? throw the book at him.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're reaching.

''He was charged with misdemeanors including disorderly conduct, failure to identify and possessing false I.D.'' egads, why is he not in jail????? throw the book at him.

I'm not saying throw him in jail, but the heisman is suppose to be about on the field and off the field, someone who represents way a college athlete is. Look up the whole spew on what the heisman recognizes.

[Danzig]

after seeing newton get the award, there is no way anyone can say a thing about manziel in that regard, regardless of heisman spiels.

btw, i am not advocating for 'johnny football' at all in regards to whether he is most deserving this year. i am saying, however, that his off the field antics don't rise to the level of ineligibility.

[IrishofNDMan]

Autocorrect from my phone screws up all my post, so sorry for some of the tough reads haha

[IrishofNDMan]

If it was NDs qb tommy Rees goon for heisman if say absolutely not after he was arrested before the season. This award is a privilege, you should be held to a higher standard to win the award although I know that hasn't always been the case. Try finding dirt on manti teo, you'll be looking a long time and come up empty.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Last thing for the night, if Manti Teo doesn't win the heisman then that award is officially offensive players only. I honestly think they will give it to him and he is well deserving of it. He embodies what a college athlete should be on and off the field, class act.

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

If it was NDs qb tommy Rees goon for heisman if say absolutely not after he was arrested before the season. This award is a privilege, you should be held to a higher standard to win the award although I know that hasn't always been the case. Try finding dirt on manti teo, you'll be looking a long time and come up empty.

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

yes it is! OVER-hyped LB and MUCH More OVER-hyped nd football team!

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

I'm waiting for more info to come out, but I still say his caring personality was taken advantage of and he was sucked in to fall in love with a girl he thought was sick and dying. Only thing I can fault him for is making up parts of the story, but I think that was out of embarrassment that he was in love with someone strictly online. The truth will come out, trust me I wasn't always defending manti. I called my buddies and my dad when news first broke and told them I can't believe this guy and I lost all respect for manti. Once I calmed down and heard more facts I began to believe he is that same high character guy and will believe until proven otherwise.

And you guys thought ND was no longer relevant, this **** is bigger than lance Armstrong simply because it happened at ND.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I'm waiting for more info to come out, but I still say his caring personality was taken advantage of and he was sucked in to fall in love with a girl he thought was sick and dying. Only thing I can fault him for is making up parts of the story, but I think that was out of embarrassment that he was in love with someone strictly online. The truth will come out, trust me I wasn't always defending manti. I called my buddies and my dad when news first broke and told them I can't believe this guy and I lost all respect for manti. Once I calmed down and heard more facts I began to believe he is that same high character guy and will believe until proven otherwise.

And you guys thought ND was no longer relevant, this **** is bigger than lance Armstrong simply because it happened at ND.

yeah, he's clean as the driven snow...that's why he was still talking about his dead g/f weeks after he'd found it was a hoax.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I'm waiting for more info to come out, but I still say his caring personality was taken advantage of and he was sucked in to fall in love with a girl he thought was sick and dying. Only thing I can fault him for is making up parts of the story, but I think that was out of embarrassment that he was in love with someone strictly online. The truth will come out, trust me I wasn't always defending manti. I called my buddies and my dad when news first broke and told them I can't believe this guy and I lost all respect for manti. Once I calmed down and heard more facts I began to believe he is that same high character guy and will believe until proven otherwise.

And you guys thought ND was no longer relevant, this **** is bigger than lance Armstrong simply because it happened at ND.

How do you know he has a caring personality? Teammates came out today and said they barely knew him.

How can you be such a leader...yet your teammates barely know you?

At the very least, he lied when he continued this nonsense when he "found out" the whole thing was a hoax in late December. Do high character guys continue to lie..or do they take on issues?

Ask yourself this...if Deadspin never uncovered this, would he ever have admitted it all? I say no way.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How do you know he has a caring personality? Teammates came out today and said they barely knew him.

How can you be such a leader...yet your teammates barely know you?

At the very least, he lied when he continued this nonsense when he "found out" the whole thing was a hoax in late December. Do high character guys continue to lie..or do they take on issues?

Ask yourself this...if Deadspin never uncovered this, would he ever have admitted it all? I say no way.

Don't say teammates, it was on teammate from everything I found. Teo and his family I believe were waiting it out to try to figure out the persons motive, possibly distortion??? Plenty notre dame players are blasting whoever this anonymous teammate is right now calling him a cowherd after everything they've been through this year. Plenty of guys know him and check his charity work.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

And you guys thought ND was no longer relevant, this **** is bigger than lance Armstrong simply because it happened at ND.

You can add this statement to your funny sh1t list Hossy.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

yeah, i was thinking of those comments after i first heard about teo. people have got to stop thinking ability or talent equals 'good guy'.