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Old 07-28-2012, 08:08 AM
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How come hosses rarely win back if they add lasix after a win ?
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:52 PM
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Well, I told you I didn't have time today. Small in quantity minority group? You mean like everywhere but North and South America?

I'm not sure why we have to prove anything, but I will. Most horses are given Lasix with no proof of bleeding.
I'm sorry - how does that prove that lasix is a performance enhancer that moves horses up lengths?

This is the problem: Everybody in American racing is against the use of illegal drugs, illegal performance enhancers. Nobody wants that.

Some in American racing want to also go to zero drugs used on race day, in an attempt to reach that goal.

The trouble is that the veterinary medical community has advised the racing community that eliminating race day lasix isn't in the best interests of the health and welfare of the race horse, and would be a bad thing.

The racing industry response, by some: attack and attempt to disparage and invalidate the professional opinion of the veterinary medical community, and lie about lasix and what it does.

Just because some of the rest of the world uses lasix in training fast works, but not on race day, doesn't mean our horses have to join that group and take a step backwards in equine sports medicine.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:18 PM
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I'm sorry - how does that prove that lasix is a performance enhancer that moves horses up lengths?
I never said it proves anything. I told you that was coming when I had time, but apparently that means I have to check in hourly to keep you up to date.

At least you weren't dumb enough to deny horses are given Lasix with no proof of needing it every day.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:19 PM
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How come hosses rarely win back if they add lasix after a win ?
What exactly is rarely? And what is a hoss?
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:19 PM
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Did you notice the Team Valor wonderhorse from Uruguay in the stake at Monmouth on Sunday makes his US debut with Lasix? More interesting is the fact that according to the DRF the horse was on lasix in Uruguay.
He ran like crap
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:30 PM
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He ran like crap
Yea, he blew his race on the track before the start. This is one horse Motion may need to ship into the track he's going to race at a few days earlier..
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:42 PM
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What exactly is rarely? And what is a hoss?

rarely means seldom, a hoss is what we bet on at the track
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:07 PM
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rarely means seldom,
Well in that case, I think you are just making it up. The stats say otherwise.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:28 PM
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Yea, he blew his race on the track before the start. This is one horse Motion may need to ship into the track he's going to race at a few days earlier..
He was fine saddling and in the paddock. I think it might be more of a case of a horse running in one turn races while outside horses (probably pretty slow ones) suddenly being stuck in behind horses in a 2 turn race. All his races in S. America were 1 turn races.

Or he just isnt very good
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:37 PM
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He was fine saddling and in the paddock. I think it might be more of a case of a horse running in one turn races while outside horses (probably pretty slow ones) suddenly being stuck in behind horses in a 2 turn race. All his races in S. America were 1 turn races.

Or he just isnt very good

He needs some more raceday medication. Those Uruguayan trainers are well known juicers.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:30 PM
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Well in that case, I think you are just making it up. The stats say otherwise.

after the next 10 you bet on that get beat, then talk to me.
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