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Old 07-19-2012, 02:52 PM
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Do you have a private sector employment history that shows if the President didn't make any money for his company that week he didn't get paid.

Don't take things out of context, I said work to EARN. It takes work to go to school and write books but neither of those is like making payroll for 22 people when your company didn't have a good month or quarter.
Supplying the entire quote for the 2-3 people that haven't heard it in its entirety will soften the blow but it still shows that this President is clueless when it comes to understanding common business and economics.
What is your point? That it's only valid "work" if you have a business of a certain size with a certain number of employees? That's absurd. The President has worked to earn to support himself, and later himself and his family. Like nearly every other American. Employees "work", and self-employed accounts, doctors, auto mechanics, etc. "work" even if they don't have a business and have to make any payroll other than themselves. Obama has done that.

If you want to look at someone who was gifted, geeshus, look at Romney. He never started from scratch. The toughest period in his life, according to his wife, was when they were "poor" in school, and they had to live off stock income! He never made any product. But he still "worked" in my view.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:03 PM
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What is your point? That it's only valid "work" if you have a business of a certain size with a certain number of employees? That's absurd. The President has worked to earn to support himself, and later himself and his family. Like nearly every other American. Employees "work", and self-employed accounts, doctors, auto mechanics, etc. "work" even if they don't have a business and have to make any payroll other than themselves. Obama has done that.

If you want to look at someone who was gifted, geeshus, look at Romney. He never started from scratch. The toughest period in his life, according to his wife, was when they were "poor" in school, and they had to live off stock income! He never made any product. But he still "worked" in my view.
Work history for the President in the private sector would definitely prove your point?

Never said anything about Romney as I do not care much for him either, he is a silver spooner. This is about the President not understanding reality and what people (real people not "public servants" or academia) need to do to survive and what really drives the economy of the country.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:07 PM
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Work history for the President in the private sector would definitely prove your point?

Never said anything about Romney as I do not care much for him either, he is a silver spooner. This is about the President not understanding reality and what people (real people not "public servants" or academia) need to do to survive and what really drives the economy of the country.
This president appears to understand what drives this economy perfectly - he's created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years, the GDP has risen, he's sanctioned against trade/China, he's supported our infrastucture support development, he's embraced new business technology, this president defends the poor and middle class, he understands exactly what they need when they are struggling, and he tries to work for them, outstandingly - and done it against historically complete obstruction and opposition by the opposing political party. All that "community organizer" attack crap? All that experience was working with the poor, helping them. And this president is hardly "liberal", let alone "socialist", in his financial/business approach.

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:11 PM
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This president appears to understand what drives this economy perfectly - he's created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years, the GDP has risen, he's sanctioned against trade/China, he's supported our infrastucture support development, he's embraced new business technology, this president defends the poor and middle class, he understands exactly what they need when they are struggling, and he tries to work for them, outstandingly - and done it against historically complete obstruction and opposition by the opposing political party. And this president is hardly "liberal", let alone "socialist", in his financial/business approach.

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.
Don't stop believing.
This is a one of a kind statement and there is no logical person out there that would confirm what you have written.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:20 PM
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Don't stop believing. This is a one of a kind statement and there is no logical person out there that would confirm what you have written.
Really? We don't need "belief", nor do we need "logical people" to "confirm" anything. We just need the facts to confirm. So here's what I said, below. You are free to disprove it with facts that show otherwise:

1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years

2) the GDP has risen

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

4) Obama adminstration has supported our infrastucture support development

5) Obama administration has embraced new business technology

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:33 PM
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Really? We don't need "belief", nor do we need "logical people" to "confirm" anything. We just need the facts to confirm. So here's what I said, below. You are free to disprove it with facts that show otherwise:

1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years

2) the GDP has risen

3) Obama administration has sanctioned against trade/China

4) Obama adminstration has supported our infrastucture support development

5) Obama administration has embraced new business technology

Saying this president - love him or hate him - doesn't understand what "real people" need to do to survive is simply absurd and doesn't stand up to the reality.
Everyone is always required to disprove your theories, you never show anything to prove your statements are in fact true.
Why are the jobs numbers so miserable if the President is creating jobs?
Why are all the new business technologies failing miserably despite the hundreds of millions of dollars being thrown their way?
If the GDP is going so well why is unemployment so high?
What specifically has been changed in our infrastructure?
Are there any measurable benefits that you can quantify from the trade sanctions against China (makers of our Olympic uniforms, BTW)?

Please defend your position with facts and numbers.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:35 PM
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Everyone is always required to disprove your theories, you never show anything to prove your statements are in fact true.
Why are the jobs numbers so miserable if the President is creating jobs?
Why are all the new business technologies failing miserably despite the hundreds of millions of dollars being thrown their way?
If the GDP is going so well why is unemployment so high?
What specifically has been changed in our infrastructure?
Are there any measurable benefits that you can quantify from the trade sanctions against China (makers of our Olympic uniforms, BTW)?

Please defend your position with facts and numbers.
I have posted factual support for 100% of those claims on this board several times previously over the past year, and you know it. You are free to disprove them. Go ahead, or be quiet. YOU say they are not true - go ahead. Put your money where your mouth is. You always come on saying "that's not true", and you never put up. So put up now.
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:45 PM
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1) Obama administration has created hundreds of thousands of jobs over the past three years
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when a one trillion dollar stimulus package was passed... and promised to create, what, 2.3 million jobs? this quoted statement was actually a HUGE Obama failure.
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when a one trillion dollar stimulus package was passed... and promised to create, what, 2.3 million jobs? this quoted statement was actually a HUGE Obama failure.
Oh well ya, if you are looking at actual numbers...He (all by himself just ask him) created hundreds of thousands of jobs!! That they were seasonal, govt, underpaid and for a very particular demo that wasn't really hurting anyway doesn't really matter.

It is like the GDP, it went up, way slower than it has to to sustain life but up nonetheless, SUCCESS!!
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