18 Reasons the Affordable Care Act Is the Greatest Achievement for the Middle Class

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's the big question right now, who will drop coverage? the answer is most, if not all, small groups will. if it's cheaper to pay the fine than continue to carry the coverage, and knowing employees can get it thru exchanges, why would any small employer keep their current plan? if you can save money by dropping and paying the fee, why wouldn't you? and that's the first budget breaker, as the cbo planned on only a few million losing small group coverage. in fact, most will. 'they' said it could be as low as 3 million people, but....it could be as high as 30 million. when they did the figuring back when members of congress said it 'must cost less than a trillion' they lowballed the number used to figure people losing coverage.


and yes, they will have to raise rates. how could they not? insurance companies have to pay out 85% in claims-but watch the claims come pouring in.
like i said, at least it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. wonder when we get downgraded again.

Health care "exchanges" are just orbitz for insurance companies, there to help you shop.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Health care "exchanges" are just orbitz for insurance companies, there to help you shop.

yep, i know it. and many states are opting not to set them up. the work involved is astronomical. the amount of info that will have to be available is mind-boggling.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yep, i know it. and many states are opting not to set them up. the work involved is astronomical. the amount of info that will have to be available is mind-boggling.

States can use those funds to set up whatever state-specific type of exchange they want. Oregon and Vermont, for example, are going full-on single payer via the ACA in their states.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

States can use those funds to set up whatever state-specific type of exchange they want. Oregon and Vermont, for example, are going full-on single payer via the ACA in their states.

With who as the provider?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

With who as the provider?

Regular physicians, hospitals, etc. The ususal.

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[Riot]

Attention, residents of:

Georgia
Wisconsin
Iowa
South Dakota
Kansas
Louisiana
Florida
South Carolina
Indiana
New Jersey

Your House of Representatives, your Senate, your President, and your Supreme Court has given you an expansion of healthcare in your state under the Affordable Care Act.

While every other Republican-lead state will, of course, follow the law to help their citizens, your governor has personally decided he's not gonna let you get the healthcare you are now legally entitled to, that everyone else in the country will be getting.

Sorry. Sucks for you

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012...ans-uninsured/

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Regular physicians, hospitals, etc. The ususal.

Coverage provider for the single payer. Is it the state? Is it the Federal Gov't? Is it medicare? Is it a private company signed up to take in the huddle masses and already sick of Oregon and Vermont?
Or is it more of the same like physicians and hospitals?
Smilie all you like, being vague about something so revolutionary as single payer should really be accompanied by a detail or two about the system that will one day save America and put us on the level of all the other world class countries like Spain, Italy and France...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Coverage provider for the single payer. Is it the state? Is it the Federal Gov't? Is it medicare? Is it a private company signed up to take in the huddle masses and already sick of Oregon and Vermont?
Or is it more of the same like physicians and hospitals?
Smilie all you like, being vague about something so revolutionary as single payer should really be accompanied by a detail or two about the system that will one day save America and put us on the level of all the other world class countries like Spain, Italy and France...

Have you paid zero attention at all to the discussion of the Affordable Care Act on this board?

What you just said, above, makes no sense at all

To help you: "providers" are the ones that provide the health care. You asked who would be the providers: that would be private doctors and hospitals, as are providers now.

Perhaps what you want to know who is going to administer a single payer program in those states? The state would.

Where does the money come from for the new state insurance exchanges? The federal government, via the ACA.

Again, to repeat a basic benefit of the Affordable Care Act, because clearly you've been paying zero attention for the past three years, or the past week: Each state gets to set up state insurance exchanges, where citizens of the state can purchase insurance. Those two states will set up single payer exchanges, where the state will be the payer.