1973 Preakness (UPDATE: Maryland accepts 1:53.0)

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

There were some pretty good European horses over the last 50 years too. People seem to think the best horses only race in the USA.

No one who posts here (including myself) is even remotely qualified to talk about comparing and rating past European stars from the last 50 years.

The courses over there and the way everything is handled makes such speculation hopeless.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

No one who posts here (including myself) is even remotely qualified to talk about comparing and rating past European stars from the last 50 years.

The courses over there and the way everything is handled makes such speculation hopeless.

Ranking Euro horses is tough, no doubt about it...horses like Ribot, Sea Bird, Brigadier Gerard, and Mill Reef were indeed special however and deserving (imo) of high rankings. Same with old timers both in US and Euro such as Kincsem, Eclipse, St Simon, Ormonde and Pot 8 O's.

[Kasept]

Matt Hegarty‏@DRFHegarty: DRF and Pimlico have said they will recognize 1:53 as new 1973 Preakness time, giving Secretariat record in all three TC races.

[Calzone Lord]

1:53 and how many one-hundredths?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

1:53 and how many one-hundredths?

1:53.18 per Dorothy Ours on FB.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

1:53.18 per Dorothy Ours on FB.

I used 1:53.40 to get his figure of 123 for the Preakness.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I used 1:53.40 to get his figure of 123 for the Preakness.

Not a Beyer expert or I guess I'd know this, but how does the .22sec shift affect your calculations?

[slotdirt]

Good to hear, but why did it take 39 years when any idiot with multiple fingers and a stopwatch could have reached the same conclusion in 1973?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Matt Hegarty‏@DRFHegarty: DRF and Pimlico have said they will recognize 1:53 as new 1973 Preakness time, giving Secretariat record in all three TC races.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

No one who posts here (including myself) is even remotely qualified to talk about comparing and rating past European stars from the last 50 years.

The courses over there and the way everything is handled makes such speculation hopeless.

While this is true, I have a hard time believing that horses like Lammtarra, Frankel, Sea the Stars, Zarkava, Goldikova, Miesque, and Dancing Brave wouldn't have places up pretty high on such lists.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

While this is true, I have a hard time believing that horses like Lammtarra, Frankel, Sea the Stars, Zarkava, Goldikova, Miesque, and Dancing Brave wouldn't have places up pretty high on such lists.

The wise men say "the palest ink is better than the best memory"

Good luck finding any pale ink that would competently allow anyone to rate and compare those horses with each other -- let alone with American dirt runners.