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[VOL JACK]

Main uses: El Padrino, Union rags, Dullahan

Main tosses: Trinniberg, Optimizer, and who ever draws the rail.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Main uses: El Padrino, Union rags, Dullahan

Main tosses: Trinniberg, Optimizer, and who ever draws the rail.

Considering the size of the field -- post #2 has been fine.

2011: Brilliant Speed was 7th from post 2.

2010: Ice Box was 2nd from post 2

2009: Musket Man was 3rd from post 2

2008: Tale of Ekati was 4th from post 2

2007: Curlin was 3rd from post 2

2006: Steppenwolfer was 3rd from post 2

2005: Andromeda's Hero was 8th from post 2


That's seven years in a row where the horse who drew post 2 finished in the top half of the field ... five out of the last six years they've finished in the top four ... and four out of the last six years they've finished in the top 3.

Aptitude was a clear 2nd from post 2 in 2000. Real Quiet wore saddle cloth #2 but he actually broke from post 3.

I won't mind posts 1 or 2 if a deep closer gets it.

[VOL JACK]

What about post #1 though?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

What about post #1 though?

Since 1990...

Archarchrach 15th

lookin at lucky 6th

West Side Bernie 9th

Cool Coal Man 15th

Sedgefield 5th

Jazil 4th

Sort It Out 17th

Limestone 4th

Supah Blitz 13th

Johannesburg 8th

Songandaprayer 13th

Anees 13th

Adonis 17th

Nationalore 9th

Crypto Star 5th

Blow Out 7th

Dazzling Falls 13th

Soul of the Matter 5th

Storm Tower 16th

Al Sabin 6th

Fly So Free 5th

Dr. Bobby A 12th


A lot of hopeless horses...though two contenders the last two years encountered a lot of trouble from rail draws.

[Calzone Lord]

Ferdinand is the last horse to win from post #1 in 1986. Risen Star the last horse to finish in the top 3 from a rail draw in 1988. Cryptoclearance was 4th from post #1 in '87.

[HaloWishingwell]

Using....All
Tossing....none

Post positions,reports, weather and etc. Just too much to come before dumping anyone.

For example a horse on the bubble like El Padrino and Take Charge Indy would go way up my list if it rains.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Ferdinand is the last horse to win from post #1 in 1986. Risen Star the last horse to finish in the top 3 from a rail draw in 1988. Cryptoclearance was 4th from post #1 in '87.

And those 3 were all a whole lotta horse.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

And those 3 were all a whole lotta horse.

and Risen Star got a tour of Kentucky to get around horses from the inside.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Since 1990...

Archarchrach 15th

lookin at lucky 6th


A lot of hopeless horses...though two contenders the last two years encountered a lot of trouble from rail draws.

My last two derby picks, one thrown over the fence and came all the way back for 6th, the other broke something in the race and never ran again. I will not make a strong opinion anywhere before the draw this year lest my horse pull the 1 again.

[Gate Dancer]

I'll use the same disclaimers that most people have cited such as: weather, workouts, pp draw, etc..............but I am leaning towards these 4 for the win bet:

Creative Cause
I'll Have Another
Daddy Nose Best
Gemologist

(Bubble Horses)
Union Rags
Dullahan
Rousing Sermon (ridiculous I know, just think there's upside potential)

Nothing shocking here but I believe the Pick 3's, Pick 4's, Oaks/Derby Double and Oaks/Woodford/Derby Pick 3 is where I'll be spending my time rather than the vertical wagers in the Derby.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

What about post #1 though?

Darn it, I wanted to ask who had the best placing from the #1 recently.

(Go Jazil Go! )