Havre De Grace Retired

[trackrat59]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i can imagine it...very well actually! she'd buy several good ones.

"several good ones" - If you have money you can buy "several good ones" all you want. Once you put them on the track in a race, try and keep them happy and healthy, well, that takes "several good ones" to another place.

I think it was the owner of Lava Man that said something about why he would not take any of the offers he was getting for LM. Something like, what was he going to do with the money? Try and purchase "several good ones" and come up with another Lava Man?

Same concept with HDG. Just saying, If that were my filly I would hold on to her.

[freddymo]

I know Dr Riot is a Vet it just seems Rollo is a better one and he is an internet nobody.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I know Dr Riot is a Vet it just seems Rollo is a better one and he is an internet nobody.

I'm no fan of Riot but she explained what 1 / 5 lame is and she is correct.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm no fan of Riot but she explained what 1 / 5 lame is and she is correct.

I agree she is a fine Vet. I bet she has neutered at least 100 cats.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm no fan of Riot but she explained what 1 / 5 lame is and she is correct.

She actually only played a semantics game in order to cover up her embarrassment.

What she is attempting to do, is use two different scales for grading lameness, one superimposed on another. The AAEP scale ranges from 0 to 5. "0" being no perceptable lameness, "5" being non-weight bearing lame. So clearly, any horse exhibiting signs of lameness higher than "0", indeed can be classified as lame--hence the fucl<ing notation on the vet report that the horse was "1/5 lame". In fact, a grade 1 score is defined as "lameness that is difficult to observe...". The AAEP is calling it a "lameness". What more do you need? Keep in mind, the issue is not the severity of the lameness, which is what Riot is attempting to use to in order to avoid admitting she was in error.

Over the AAEP scale, Riot is trying to use some sort of laymen's concept of lameness. If the horse isn't clearly head nodding, then it isn't lame. She's basically saying that horses with lameness grades 0, 1, 2, or 3 are not in fact lame. Only those with grades 4 or 5. Think about that for a minute.

Finally, look at her last post to me, where she basically said, ridiculously, that a lame horse is not lame if the lameness is difficult to see. She lists all sorts of changes to a horses way of going. These are all alterations in gait. The very definition of lameness.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

"several good ones" - If you have money you can buy "several good ones" all you want. Once you put them on the track in a race, try and keep them happy and healthy, well, that takes "several good ones" to another place.

I think it was the owner of Lava Man that said something about why he would not take any of the offers he was getting for LM. Something like, what was he going to do with the money? Try and purchase "several good ones" and come up with another Lava Man?

Same concept with HDG. Just saying, If that were my filly I would hold on to her.

as rick porter explained, it's part of his business plan to sell his horses when they're done racing. that money he gets out of them at sales makes up for money he spends at sales. that he can't afford a large broodmare band. he named two horses that he kept because he became attached to them. yeah, hdg gets a lot of press, but rick has other horses that maybe don't do so well at the track-but still cost him money. he's not the only one who does this, and i can understand why. as chuck said a few years ago, whether a horse is fast or slow, it costs tens of thousands to keep just one in training-and that's just for basic upkeep. i doubt most of porters buys get what HDG potentially can earn when he sells them.
he's in racing, not breeding. HDG is no longer a racer...he'll sell her to enable him to remain in the racing game. makes perfect sense.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Who is she?

[trackrat59]

Originally Posted by Danzig

as rick porter explained, it's part of his business plan to sell his horses when they're done racing. that money he gets out of them at sales makes up for money he spends at sales. that he can't afford a large broodmare band. he named two horses that he kept because he became attached to them. yeah, hdg gets a lot of press, but rick has other horses that maybe don't do so well at the track-but still cost him money. he's not the only one who does this, and i can understand why. as chuck said a few years ago, whether a horse is fast or slow, it costs tens of thousands to keep just one in training-and that's just for basic upkeep. i doubt most of porters buys get what HDG potentially can earn when he sells them.
he's in racing, not breeding. HDG is no longer a racer...he'll sell her to enable him to remain in the racing game. makes perfect sense.

It all about the money, not the horse. I get it. For some it would be all about the horse. That's my point.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

It all about the money, not the horse. I get it. For some it would be all about the horse. That's my point.

i'm not sure what you mean that it's not all about the horse. she'll get the best of care and mates that money can buy, regardless of who ends up with her. for him, it's all about owning racehorses. she's not one anymore.

[trackrat59]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm not sure what you mean that it's not all about the horse. she'll get the best of care and mates that money can buy, regardless of who ends up with her. for him, it's all about owning racehorses. she's not one anymore.

If you don't get it don't worry about it. Just drop it.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

If you don't get it don't worry about it. Just drop it.

I did the same kind of thisn a couple of weeks ago but gave up much sooner...

Sometimes you just have to.

(Not always though).

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

If you don't get it don't worry about it. Just drop it.

oh, i get what you're saying. just not everyone looks at things the same way i guess. you'd think he could keep her-but i guess he doesn't have a connection with her.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

"several good ones" - If you have money you can buy "several good ones" all you want. Once you put them on the track in a race, try and keep them happy and healthy, well, that takes "several good ones" to another place.

I think it was the owner of Lava Man that said something about why he would not take any of the offers he was getting for LM. Something like, what was he going to do with the money? Try and purchase "several good ones" and come up with another Lava Man?

Same concept with HDG. Just saying, If that were my filly I would hold on to her.

She is a maiden mare in her new career and we don't really need to list the number of really good racemares that were hardly stellar broodmares do we? The odds are that Porter will find the money spent from her purchase far more effective in terms of finding new runners than the money he would have to sink into her as a mare. Between board/farm expenses, stud fee and insurance alone it might cost him close to 1/2 a million a year to keep her.