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[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Maybe after you answer. Obviously you can't and stick to your argument, so you won't.

It seems you've lost track of what's going on here. You were asked to give reasons why lasix shouldn't be used, and you gave three. And now I'm asking you to defend your reasons. Can you do that?

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

You have quoted back paragraphs one and two to me, dismissing them as reasons, although those were not given by me as reasons, they were only comments. My reasons are in the third and fourth paragraphs. So please don't say I haven't answered, when I clearly have.

[cmorioles]

I know you did, and those answers smell to high heaven. None of that matters if the effect is the same, and you already admitted it was. Since you are never going to answer, I'll end this now. It was fun while it lasted, but you are truly no different than the anti-Lasix zealots. You completely ignore everything I ask because it doesn't fit your agenda.

I'll let Rollo commence with his beat down in the Havre de Grace thread. He is much smarter than me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I know you did, and those answers smell to high heaven. None of that matters if the effect is the same, and you already admitted it was. Since you are never going to answer, I'll end this now. It was fun while it lasted, but you are truly no different than the anti-Lasix zealots. You completely ignore everything I ask because it doesn't fit your agenda.

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'd use both FLAIR and lasix. One of the causes of EIPH is thought to be unsustainable pressure differences between pulmonary capillaries and alveolar air, causing tearing of pulmonary capillary walls and bleeding into the alveoli.

FLAIR decreases the massive negative pressure generated during inspiration,that is thought to help tear vessels; and lasix decreases the exercise-induced rise in pulmonary vasculature pressure. Best to reduce pressure on both sides of the aveolar/capillary interface, in order to protect it.

Plus, FLAIR seems to just help them get more air flow - like a human wearing a Breath-right strip

Originally Posted by Riot

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

You kinda did, but not really.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Riot

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

I already addressed those answers. Reading is fundamental. I asked questions about your responses, and typically, they were ignored.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I already addressed those answers. Reading is fundamental. I asked questions about your responses, and typically, they were ignored.

Naw. You've spent the thread completely ignoring anything you didn't like hearing, dismissing opinions you don't like out of hand. And that's been pointed out by more than one poster here.

You might try re-reading the thread from the start. You might learn the answers to your questions, which were discussed in more depth pages ago.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Riot

I've spent the thread completely ignoring anything you didn't like hearing, dismissing opinions you don't like out of hand.

Tidied that up for you!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Tidied that up for you!

Not really. I asked you before, concerning your reason 1) why don't you want to decrease the pulmonary vascular pressures? Considering 93% of horses have hemosiderophages and RBC's in their alveoli post-exercise, you being against attenuating that makes no sense to me. Please - explain.

And I asked you to give me three reasons you think lasix should not be used, and you indeed listed three. But you refuse to support them with any reasoning, other than you think that merely stating them makes them true? Do you have ANY support for your reasons not to use lasix? Convince me! I'll be glad to change my mind.