Kentucky's ongoing attempt to end racing in state proceeds..

[cmorioles]

What difference does it make how they work, as long as they do? Surely if the results are similar any sane person would choose the strip over an injection, unless of course there are other reasons they don't want to discuss.

I would say less than 50% of horses actually need Lasix. Can it be proven these days, probably not, but I've been following the game a long, long time, certainly before it was legal and then later abused.

I have no idea how it enhances performance, but you can't deny the results. Well, you can, but an unbiased person wouldn't.

Again, no answer. I rest my case.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Again, no answer. I rest my case.

While you are resting, you might want to start at the beginning of the thread and read it.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Riot

While you are resting, you might want to start at the beginning of the thread and read it.

Maybe after you answer. Obviously you can't and stick to your argument, so you won't.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Maybe after you answer. Obviously you can't and stick to your argument, so you won't.

It seems you've lost track of what's going on here. You were asked to give reasons why lasix shouldn't be used, and you gave three. And now I'm asking you to defend your reasons. Can you do that?

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

You have quoted back paragraphs one and two to me, dismissing them as reasons, although those were not given by me as reasons, they were only comments. My reasons are in the third and fourth paragraphs. So please don't say I haven't answered, when I clearly have.

[cmorioles]

I know you did, and those answers smell to high heaven. None of that matters if the effect is the same, and you already admitted it was. Since you are never going to answer, I'll end this now. It was fun while it lasted, but you are truly no different than the anti-Lasix zealots. You completely ignore everything I ask because it doesn't fit your agenda.

I'll let Rollo commence with his beat down in the Havre de Grace thread. He is much smarter than me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I know you did, and those answers smell to high heaven. None of that matters if the effect is the same, and you already admitted it was. Since you are never going to answer, I'll end this now. It was fun while it lasted, but you are truly no different than the anti-Lasix zealots. You completely ignore everything I ask because it doesn't fit your agenda.

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'd use both FLAIR and lasix. One of the causes of EIPH is thought to be unsustainable pressure differences between pulmonary capillaries and alveolar air, causing tearing of pulmonary capillary walls and bleeding into the alveoli.

FLAIR decreases the massive negative pressure generated during inspiration,that is thought to help tear vessels; and lasix decreases the exercise-induced rise in pulmonary vasculature pressure. Best to reduce pressure on both sides of the aveolar/capillary interface, in order to protect it.

Plus, FLAIR seems to just help them get more air flow - like a human wearing a Breath-right strip

Originally Posted by Riot

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

You kinda did, but not really.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Riot

I answered your question about why lasix and not FLAIR strips in post 273, the third and fourth paragraph. Please re-read that.

I already addressed those answers. Reading is fundamental. I asked questions about your responses, and typically, they were ignored.