When "Neighborhood Watch" Gets Out of Hand

[Riot]

ABC must have a massive contact leaking information to them from inside the prosecutors office - they've had all the "good stuff" in this case. I wonder if the prosecutor will freak out about this new leak, especially after the case has been sealed by the judge?

That looks like real blood to me. But you see how the pattern is running down to the left and right of the back-top of the head? [although there appears to be two contusions in a linear fashion (like the edge of a curb?) ] - there is no blood smear.

If his head was "being beaten" against the concrete, how come none of the blood is smeared?

So, say it's real, his head was beaten against the concrete to get the two contusions - he must have immediately gotten up and regained the upper hand, because the blood is running down both sides, consistent with how he's sitting now: with his head up, facing downward a little.

If his head was beaten against the concrete to get that, then he immediately got up before he started bleeding from the wounds, because none of the blood is smeared (is there blood on the concrete at the scene?)

And if he was standing after the injury, the blood would have run straight down his collar. It appears the head was bent over, as the blood ran down the left and right sides from the wounds.

I wonder if he shot Trayvon while laying on his back with Trayvon on top, then pushed dead Trayvon off and immediately stood up. Could be.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

I wonder if he shot Trayvon while laying on his back with Trayvon on top, then pushed dead Trayvon off and immediately stood up. Could be.

Yes. I believe that is what the claim has been all along.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yes. I believe that is what the claim has been all along.

But it sure doesn't support it's existence through a 43-second long struggle, as heard on the tape. It must have happened at the very end. And if his head felt painful from being bashed against the cement enough to scare him for his life, how come after the fight there is zero sign of smear from Zimmerman putting his hand up to feel the back of his head, where the pain and warm blood are?

Big, I also saw the funeral director speak that there was no bruising, cuts or signs of a fight on hands or face he had to cover.

I'm just happy an arrest was finally made. I hope it doesn't come out the police department was incompetent and screwed up any evidence, etc. as is the fear. I'm content to the let the legal process work and come to a conclusion.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

But it sure doesn't support it's existence through a 43-second long struggle, as heard on the tape. And if his head felt hurt, how come there is zero sign of smear from Zimmerman putting his hand up to feel the pain and warm blood on the back of his head?

Big, I also saw the funeral director speak that there was no bruising, cuts or signs of a fight on hands or face he had to cover.

I'm just happy an arrest was finally made. I hope it doesn't come out the police department was incompetent and screwed up any evidence, etc. as is the fear. I'm content to the let the legal process work and come to a conclusion.

The funeral director (who works for the Martin family) is hardly a credible witness. The coroner is a credible witness. I would trust the coroner's opinion. But even if the funeral director was a credible witness, his testimony is still meaningless. Why would Martin have bruises? Zimmerman's claim is that he was sucker-punched from behind and then Martin jumped on top of him and started beating him. If that is what happened, then I wouldn't expect Martin to have any bruises. The guy with the bruises would be Zimmerman. If anything, the funeral director's testimony helps to confirm Zimmerman's story.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Today after viewing that photograph, Dershowitz blasted the prosecutors even more than he did before, calling them "not only immoral, but stupid". He accused them of committing a "grave ethical violation".

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...cution-immoral

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Today after viewing that photograph, Dershowitz blasted the prosecutors even more than he did before, calling them "not only immoral, but stupid". He accused them of committing a "grave ethical violation".

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...cution-immoral

Haven't read every word of the accounts of what happened but how do we know that is Z's head? or when the pic was taken...did he have a shaved head?...all these questions and no answers...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Haven't read every word of the accounts of what happened but how do we know that is Z's head? or when the pic was taken...did he have a shaved head?...all these questions and no answers...

The case is supposed to be sealed now. How did that picture get out, where did ABC get it from? The prosecution? The defense? The guy that took it on his cell phone?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Haven't read every word of the accounts of what happened but how do we know that is Z's head? or when the pic was taken...did he have a shaved head?...all these questions and no answers...

I would certainly think that ABC News would be smart enough to authenticate the photo before they would release it. They would lose a ton of credibility and do serious damage to their reputation if they released a photo that they did not authenticate.

The picture was supposedly taken at the scene right after the incident. This was obviously taken before the paramedics arrived and cleaned Zimmerman up.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The funeral director (who works for the Martin family) is hardly a credible witness. The coroner is a credible witness. I would trust the coroner's opinion. But even if the funeral director was a credible witness, his testimony is still meaningless. Why would Martin have bruises? Zimmerman's claim is that he was sucker-punched from behind and then Martin jumped on top of him and started beating him. If that is what happened, then I wouldn't expect Martin to have any bruises. The guy with the bruises would be Zimmerman. If anything, the funeral director's testimony helps to confirm Zimmerman's story.

There was 40-plus seconds of struggle as record on police tapes. Yes, I'd expect some physical evidence of that, on both men. And yes, we'll wait for the coroner's report.

This picture was taken by a citizen who arrived on the scene after the fight. It was not taken by the police.