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![]() i'm pretty sure the cbo has to figure as well as possible what it will actually cost. politicians however can say what they wish, so maybe that's why you heard it paid for itself? there's no way that it could. what govt program does?
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So you can be "tongue in cheek" all you want. You can read those original reports by the CBO, here, by going to this page and clicking on the links. Quote:
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![]() and now the evalutation is that is costs double the initial eval.
So the newest numbers are the ones that are actually accurate.
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Below is the original CBO report, below, in full - with all the numbers. Including the $176 trillion (which is a weird number, and I think should be $176 billion, and is miswritten in 'Zigs article I think - because see below, SCHIPS etc. is only 1.5 trillion) What is left out of 'Zigs article about the $176 trillion is the offsets, which results in the ACA having a net cost of $50 billion less than previously estimated over the next 10 years than estimated last year. Yes, the costs go up, because more people (the baby boomers) will be using it, but the income and cost savings go up to cover it, too. So yes: the March 13, 2012 CBO update on the cost of the ACA has a net cost, in the end, of $50 billion less than previously published last year. Below is the entire original report, minus charts and graphs, from the CBO http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43080 that 'Zig's article is talking about. 'Zig's article simply leaves out alot of the facts. Quote:
http://www.cbo.gov/ http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43076
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 03-22-2012 at 05:15 PM. |
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thing is, until everyone cuts their coverage and makes all their employees go thru the exchanges (which many states have yet to even set up) no one knows for sure how many will end up without. but, they used a small # initially-which kept that magic number below that trillion that so many said was the cutoff to produce a nay, rather than a yea vote. funny, isn't it? now, after it's passed-why the cost is steadily climbing. and like i posted in the '13 budget thread, the white house consistently uses incorrect numbers to get a rosier view on things. and as for the exchanges... they will go by income levels to know what your subsidy is-which means the computers will have to have access to the irs records. you have to be a citizen-so they will also have to have access to records of who's who-are you an illegal? or legal but not a citizen? there will be so many levels of info needed... i can only imagine the nightmare to come with trying to set all this up in each state. and only a licensed agent can give insurance info-but they don't plan to use agents, they plan to use 'navigators' who don't have to be licensed. but you have to have a license to give insurance advice!!! lol
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![]() ah, gotcha.
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