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Old 03-19-2012, 02:38 PM
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The Affordable Care Act is working for Virginia:

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This Thursday, March 23, the Affordable Care Act will celebrate its two-year anniversary. To mark the occasion, advocates across the Commonwealth will host events to highlight how the ACA has worked for Virginia.

The ACA's benefits have been profound for our seniors, young adults, children, women, small businesses, consumers and communities.

Here are examples of how the ACA has helped Virginians get better health care, save millions of dollars and live healthier:

* Virginia's seniors on Medicare have saved nearly $80 million on brand-name prescription drugs because of the ACA and more than 800,000 have received free preventative care services

* More than 1.5 million Virginians, including 410,000 children, can now get preventative care services without a co-pay

* Nearly 3,000,000 Virginians are now free of fear from lifetime caps on insurance coverage

* More than 60,000 of Virginia's young adults now have health care coverage though their parents' employer-provided health insurance

* More than 2,000,000 Virginians are better informed about the percentage of their premium dollars insurance companies actually spend on health care costs

* Virginians most in need have received critical health care through public health services and community-based clinics supported by more than $64.5 million in federal funding.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...g-for-Virginia
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The Affordable Care Act is working for Virginia:



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...g-for-Virginia
Nice.

What percentage have premiums increased by in the last two years in VA?
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Nice.

What percentage have premiums increased by in the last two years in VA?
Let us know when you find out some facts on that.

Oh - be sure to include stories from the people who have gotten refunds on their insurance premiums in the past two months, due to overpayment limited by the ACA. Because rerouting your health insurance premium dollars away from your health care is a good thing in your view?

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Unpublished work ©2011. American College of Physicians, Inc. All rights reserved.

Refunds for Excessive Health Insurance Premiums

Beginning in 2011, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) required insurers to report to the federal government the percentage of a health insurance premium spent on administrative, quality improvement, and medical costs.

Starting in 2012, if an insurer directs less than 80 percent of an individual insurance or small group plan’s premium and 85 percent of a large group plan’s premium to clinical and quality care improvement costs, the insurer will be required to refund the difference to the enrollee. This provision intends to ensure efficient and proper use of enrollees’ premiums.

http://www.acponline.org/advocacy/wh...e-premiums.pdf
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yet another take on obamacare:

http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-stil...070000003.html

some snippets:

ObamaCare places a tax on medical equipment manufacturers, to raise $20 billion for the federal coffers when it goes into full effect in 2013. As a result, some medical device manufacturers are already closing up shop or downsizing to reflect lower profits under ObamaCare. Some canceled plans for new U.S. plants, looking to other parts of the world. Many manufacturers have already announced significant layoffs, and most also look to other alternatives, including cutting research and development, and passing along the tax's costs to the patients.



The Congressional Budget Office just released new figures on the 10-year cost of ObamaCare. Starting in 2010, government began taxing for ObamaCare to build up revenues. So for the first four years, ObamaCare takes in tax money but does not start spending in any significant amount until 2014. This was a tactic designed to make ObamaCare seem more "affordable."

But even with this gimmick, the CBO just doubled its original projections for the cost of ObamaCare. Now, the CBO pegs the cost to taxpayers at $1.76 trillion over the next decade. And, critics point out, this price tag is only for the cost of insurance subsidies, Medicaid and CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program). It doesn't include implementation or other costs, which will likely send the taxpayers' bill soaring past $2 trillion.
Obama said his plan would save American families $2,500 a year on their insurance premiums. The new CBO report says premiums will rise 10 to 13 percent, and that up to 20 million people could lose their employer-provided health insurance every year from 2019 to 2022, a sharp revisal of its previous estimate of up to 3 million.


yes, look at all the ways it 'benefits' us.
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yet another take on obamacare:

http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-stil...070000003.html

some snippets:

ObamaCare places a tax on medical equipment manufacturers, to raise $20 billion for the federal coffers when it goes into full effect in 2013. As a result, some medical device manufacturers are already closing up shop or downsizing to reflect lower profits under ObamaCare. Some canceled plans for new U.S. plants, looking to other parts of the world. Many manufacturers have already announced significant layoffs, and most also look to other alternatives, including cutting research and development, and passing along the tax's costs to the patients.



The Congressional Budget Office just released new figures on the 10-year cost of ObamaCare. Starting in 2010, government began taxing for ObamaCare to build up revenues. So for the first four years, ObamaCare takes in tax money but does not start spending in any significant amount until 2014. This was a tactic designed to make ObamaCare seem more "affordable."

But even with this gimmick, the CBO just doubled its original projections for the cost of ObamaCare. Now, the CBO pegs the cost to taxpayers at $1.76 trillion over the next decade. And, critics point out, this price tag is only for the cost of insurance subsidies, Medicaid and CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program). It doesn't include implementation or other costs, which will likely send the taxpayers' bill soaring past $2 trillion.
Obama said his plan would save American families $2,500 a year on their insurance premiums. The new CBO report says premiums will rise 10 to 13 percent, and that up to 20 million people could lose their employer-provided health insurance every year from 2019 to 2022, a sharp revisal of its previous estimate of up to 3 million.


yes, look at all the ways it 'benefits' us.
Pretty sure I read somewhere that it paid for itself...
Why would the CBO look at it any other way?
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that it paid for itself...
Why would the CBO look at it any other way?
i'm pretty sure the cbo has to figure as well as possible what it will actually cost. politicians however can say what they wish, so maybe that's why you heard it paid for itself? there's no way that it could. what govt program does?
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i'm pretty sure the cbo has to figure as well as possible what it will actually cost. politicians however can say what they wish, so maybe that's why you heard it paid for itself? there's no way that it could. what govt program does?
Tongue in cheek, I read that it paid for itself here. If ya know what I mean.
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yet another take on obamacare:
It's an opinion piece that starts out with the imagined premise that the ACA will cause worse care and doctors leaving the country, falsely compares it to socialized government-run medicine in England (not even close), then goes downhill from there. It completely ignores multiple factors within the bill that provide revenue for the program. A very half-azzed piece. Erase all the false references to other countries and "socialized medicine" and there's only a few sentences left in this story.

Why are people wasting time on opinion pieces, when they can read the original themselves?
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Why do people question my Lord and Savior Barack Christ? Why? Bawwwwww!!
Why are people so blindly and dumbly zombie-like in their dislike?

The Affordable Care Act has been the law of the land, passed by the House and Senate, for two years. It's not going away. The current minority leader of the Senate knows it's fine, it works, and has public said he isn't going to try and repeal it.

At this point, with thousands now insured and getting health care that were not, and thousands more - even the complainers here - now covered by protections that prevent them from being thrown off their insurance in multiple ways, it's simply manufactured red meat on the campaign trail for those stuck in the Palin "death panel!" meme from three years ago.

Romney, Santorum - none of them can singularly, as the Executive Branch, repeal a law passed legally by the Congress, and they know that. Their audience apparently does not.

The only thing haters of this signature domestic policy initiative (yes, a Republican one from the 1990's) can hope is that the Supremes turn over the individual mandate, but that doesn't look likely at all based upon lower court interpretations. But hey, this high court does what they like.

And there's no real reason for them to dislike the law other than it was accomplished, finally, by a Democrat, and not by Bush, Clinton, Ford, Nixon, Reagan, Carter, Bush I, Johnson, etc. who all tried before to do the same: reform health care.

Our health care is 17% of our GDP. It's only 9% in other countries, who provide better care. If we want to erase our deficit, and live within our means, and have a strong economy, we must reform our massively broken healthcare system. Every single congress and president has known that over the years.

Why did Obama go forward with healthcare reform? It was more an economic issue. The healthcare reform contained within isn't any massive overhaul of the system, or a move to single payer (why the far left doesn't like it) it's mostly consumer protections.

The funny thing is that this law isn't "massive health care reform" in a single payer model as was discussed three years ago, it's basically only insurance reforms intent upon trying to keep your insurance company from screwing you, and trying to make Americans a little healthier with preventive care and more access.

If they have problems with parts of the law? They simply have to change it in the Congress. Not a hard thing to do.
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