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[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I hear you guys and the points are fair. We'll see what Rex is made of as a coach.

Sanchez has been getting booed since he got there. It remains to be seen if he has gotten over last year. Maybe this motivates him and kicks his play up a notch.

Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.

They actually sined WR Chaz Shillens from Oakland who is a terrific tallent that has trouble staying healthy. Tebow will be 3rd string QB with a Kordell Stewart type role which may even include special teams. I would put him as the blocker for the punt team.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.

I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.

They just said on NFL Radio, the true reason behind the extension was salary cap related. They did not elaborate, but I did hear that.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.

Yeah, I'm not sure about the coddling. His first season was a trial by fire, which ended up with a playoff run. Now there were times when he deserved to be yanked, but they had no veteran on the bench to replace him. More importantly they had no veteran to mentor the kid either. Then they get Bruenell and it was much the same, but more importantly he played very well when it counted.

Now I'm not sure what happened last year. There were a lot of Jets fans who haven't been happy with Schotty/play calling for a while. They didn't run the ball well and they didn't protect Sanchez. Once again there were times he could have been pulled, although sometimes it wasn't his fault (the Eagles game comes to mind). But he was flat out awful at times, no arguement from me.

Then the season ends and the whole world gangs up on Sanchez. Some guys came to his defense, but I guess the label has stuck. Is it accurate? I'm not sure. But my point is, that after a season which was shortened by the lockout, lots of complaining at Schotty, players fighting with each other and a severe issues with the offensive line, I think based on his success in his first two seasons, I would have given him a pass for last season and looked forward to a big year this year. Also making sure Sanchez and Holmes are on the same page. He was a major culprit that did nothing but ignite trouble (after getting his payday).

They missed the playoffs by one game and it feels like they are sounding the panic alarms on the QB who played well in his first 2 seasons. If they really have questions about him, then they should have never signed him to the extention and make him sing for his supper this year.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

They missed the playoffs by one game and it feels like they are sounding the panic alarms on the QB who played well in his first 2 seasons. If they really have questions about him, then they should have never signed him to the extention and make him sing for his supper this year.

But what is the panic alarm? Because they were half assed interested in Peyton Manning?

Every team aside from like 4 or 5 probably thought about it also.

I don't view bringing in Tebow as a panic alarm at all. He's not being brought in to start IMO.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

But what is the panic alarm? Because they were half assed interested in Peyton Manning?

Every team aside from like 4 or 5 probably thought about it also.

I don't view bringing in Tebow as a panic alarm at all. He's not being brought in to start IMO.

The fact that they are kicking the tires and trading for big name QB's the year after their franchise QB (whom they traded up for and has helped them get to the AFC title game in his first 2 years) character and work ethic has come in to question, would be worrisome for me. Obviously his poor season last year is a major part of it too. They are just sending out very mixed signals, which is possibly what they want. But like I said, I feel like Sanchez deserved a pass for last season. If he stunk again this year, he would have had one year left on his contract (before the extention) and then they could have re-evaluated their stance on him.

Instead, they give him the extention (after flirting with Peyton Manning) and now trade for a QB who might not be a skilled as Sanchez, but has to be one of the biggest competitors in the league. Not to mention that he is loved by everyone. I just think the Jets put themseleves in a no-win situation, not to mention cloudying the relationship between Sanchez and the front office.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The fact that they are kicking the tires and trading for big name QB's the year after their franchise QB (whom they traded up for and has helped them get to the AFC title game in his first 2 years) character and work ethic has come in to question, would be worrisome for me. Obviously his poor season last year is a major part of it too. They are just sending out very mixed signals, which is possibly what they want. But like I said, I feel like Sanchez deserved a pass for last season. If he stunk again this year, he would have had one year left on his contract (before the extention) and then they could have re-evaluated their stance on him.

Instead, they give him the extention (after flirting with Peyton Manning) and now trade for a QB who might not be a skilled as Sanchez, but has to be one of the biggest competitors in the league. Not to mention that he is loved by everyone. I just think the Jets put themseleves in a no-win situation, not to mention cloudying the relationship between Sanchez and the front office.

I think you are thinking about it waaaaaaaaaay more than the players involved.

[RockHardTen1985]

The Jets are a joke, and this just confirms it even more. Check out the thug CB's comments. I hope Tebow mans up to that chump and his 23 kids. Jets are trash. Really though, would it be a longshot if they finish last this year?? Im pretty sure Buffalo will be better then them. We shall see...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The Jets are a joke, and this just confirms it even more. Check out the thug CB's comments. I hope Tebow mans up to that chump and his 23 kids. Jets are trash. Really though, would it be a longshot if they finish last this year?? Im pretty sure Buffalo will be better then them. We shall see...

Tebow > Cromartie

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The Jets are a joke, and this just confirms it even more. Check out the thug CB's comments. I hope Tebow mans up to that chump and his 23 kids. Jets are trash. Really though, would it be a longshot if they finish last this year?? Im pretty sure Buffalo will be better then them. We shall see...

Oh boy.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Oh boy.

Oh boy what? Can you even say im wrong? Do you agree with your boy Tony Cromartie?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Oh boy what? Can you even say im wrong? Do you agree with your boy Tony Cromartie?

You're always wrong. Your opinion on everything is horrible.

[Dahoss]

Look, I'm glad Tebow is coming to the Jets, but let's not get too crazy with Tebow here.

If anyone seriously wanted him, the Broncos would have been able to get more for him. No one, even the team he helped make the playoffs last year, buy him as a starting QB.

He's not going to beat Sanchez out as starter ever.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Look, I'm glad Tebow is coming to the Jets, but let's not get too crazy with Tebow here.

If anyone seriously wanted him, the Broncos would have been able to get more for him. No one, even the team he helped make the playoffs last year, buy him as a starting QB.

He's not going to beat Sanchez out as starter ever.

Dude you said awhile back that you didn't want Manning and now you are saying you are happy Tebow is coming.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You're always wrong. Your opinion on everything is horrible.

My handicapping opinion has been about as rock solid as it gets for a month now. A blind man could see that. Its cool though.....

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

My handicapping opinion has been about as rock solid as it gets for a month now. A blind man could see that. Its cool though.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ