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Old 03-21-2012, 12:29 PM
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I hear you guys and the points are fair. We'll see what Rex is made of as a coach.

Sanchez has been getting booed since he got there. It remains to be seen if he has gotten over last year. Maybe this motivates him and kicks his play up a notch.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:41 PM
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Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:49 PM
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Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.
I'll wager on this.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:51 PM
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I'll wager on this.
OK but you have to take both. I already win the Sanchez bet, we will need to wait on the other outcome.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:54 PM
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:00 PM
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:06 PM
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Could we see Tony Sparano and the return of the wildcat offense with Tebow? If not then I do not see the football fit for the Jets. I would imagine Sanchez is not very pleased.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:13 PM
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Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.
I'll take this bet for whatever amount you want.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:22 PM
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I'll take this bet for whatever amount you want.
odds?

Which one? Tebow or sanchez?

The Sanchez statement is fact so you would've already lost.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:27 PM
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odds?

Which one? Tebow or sanchez?

The Sanchez statement is fact so you would've already lost.
Don't play dumb. You said Tebow will beat him out as starter in camp. I disagree.
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Don't play dumb. You said Tebow will beat him out as starter in camp. I disagree.
It was a joke, I am willing to wager but since I do not know you I will keep it fun. $20 says Tebow starts over Sanchez.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:30 PM
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There's no way Tebow starts week 1 in NY unless sanchez is injured.

Even if Tim outplays Mark in the pre-season, I don't see any way Rex doesnt start his guy Sanchez week 1.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:33 PM
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There's no way Tebow starts week 1 in NY unless sanchez is injured.

Even if Tim outplays Mark in the pre-season, I don't see any way Rex doesnt start his guy Sanchez week 1.
The heat on Rex (who clearly looks like a gent that cannot handle the heat)will be too much if Sanchez looks anything like the 2011 version in preseason, Tebow will be better this year (knows what he is up against, full workout time) than he was last (with no off season) and will show it.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:18 PM
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Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.
Not in camp, bet it before week 6.
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I hear you guys and the points are fair. We'll see what Rex is made of as a coach.

Sanchez has been getting booed since he got there. It remains to be seen if he has gotten over last year. Maybe this motivates him and kicks his play up a notch.
Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:02 PM
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Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.
They actually sined WR Chaz Shillens from Oakland who is a terrific tallent that has trouble staying healthy. Tebow will be 3rd string QB with a Kordell Stewart type role which may even include special teams. I would put him as the blocker for the punt team.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:10 PM
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Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.
I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:16 PM
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I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.
They just said on NFL Radio, the true reason behind the extension was salary cap related. They did not elaborate, but I did hear that.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:40 PM
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I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.
Yeah, I'm not sure about the coddling. His first season was a trial by fire, which ended up with a playoff run. Now there were times when he deserved to be yanked, but they had no veteran on the bench to replace him. More importantly they had no veteran to mentor the kid either. Then they get Bruenell and it was much the same, but more importantly he played very well when it counted.

Now I'm not sure what happened last year. There were a lot of Jets fans who haven't been happy with Schotty/play calling for a while. They didn't run the ball well and they didn't protect Sanchez. Once again there were times he could have been pulled, although sometimes it wasn't his fault (the Eagles game comes to mind). But he was flat out awful at times, no arguement from me.

Then the season ends and the whole world gangs up on Sanchez. Some guys came to his defense, but I guess the label has stuck. Is it accurate? I'm not sure. But my point is, that after a season which was shortened by the lockout, lots of complaining at Schotty, players fighting with each other and a severe issues with the offensive line, I think based on his success in his first two seasons, I would have given him a pass for last season and looked forward to a big year this year. Also making sure Sanchez and Holmes are on the same page. He was a major culprit that did nothing but ignite trouble (after getting his payday).

They missed the playoffs by one game and it feels like they are sounding the panic alarms on the QB who played well in his first 2 seasons. If they really have questions about him, then they should have never signed him to the extention and make him sing for his supper this year.
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They missed the playoffs by one game and it feels like they are sounding the panic alarms on the QB who played well in his first 2 seasons. If they really have questions about him, then they should have never signed him to the extention and make him sing for his supper this year.
But what is the panic alarm? Because they were half assed interested in Peyton Manning?

Every team aside from like 4 or 5 probably thought about it also.

I don't view bringing in Tebow as a panic alarm at all. He's not being brought in to start IMO.
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