Solargate

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, it will be a pleasure to vote all of these losers out of office

The loan was never approved by the Energy Department, but Upton’s advocacy for United Solar stands in contrast to his recent skepticism about the government’s clean-energy loan guarantee program.

Perhaps if a guy like George Kaiser, Obama's billionaire fundraiser, was a lead investor, like he was for Solyndra, it would have been approved like Solyndra was. Seventeen visits to the White House and Solyndra was never discussed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the loan wasn't approved, however it appears that the Auburn Hills company outlasted Solyndra despite a $500 billion disadvantage.

The Fed is broke it does not need to be loaning or giving anyone, anything. Period!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Perhaps if a guy like George Kaiser, Obama's billionaire fundraiser, was a lead investor, like he was for Solyndra, it would have been approved like Solyndra was. Seventeen visits to the White House and Solyndra was never discussed.

Solyndra wasn't approved first, either. Then they came back with redone paperwork, and lied to the government, making them look better on paper than they were.

Yeah .. that whole, "lied to the government thing", is a problem for them. Not the government.

And I don't notice you getting your panties in a wad because the Waltons, of Wal-Mart fame, long-time conservative Republican supporters and donors, were right on the front line of Solyndra investment as huge backers.

Your pathetic attempt to blame Obama for this is beyond absurd, and everyone who knows the Solyndra timeline is awares of it. Go sell your silly Faux News-Daily Caller-Big Government nonsense elsewhere. People know better.

[Danzig]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...CWN_story.html

The great pipeline sellout

In 2008, the slogan was “Yes We Can.” For 2011-12, it’s “We Can’t Wait.” What happened in between? Candidate Obama, the vessel into which myriad dreams were poured, met the reality of governance.

His near-$1 trillion stimulus begat a stagnant economy with 9 percent unemployment. His attempt at Wall Street reform left in place a still-too-big-to-fail financial system, as vulnerable today as when he came into office. His green-energy fantasies yielded Solyndra cronyism and a cap-and-trade regime not even a Democratic Congress would pass.



and at the end:


Nor is this the first time Obama’s election calendar trumped the national interest:

● Obama’s decision to wind down the Afghan surge in September 2012 is militarily inexplicable. It comes during the fighting season. It was recommended by none of his military commanders. It is explicable only as a talking point for the final days of his reelection campaign.

● At the height of the debt-ceiling debate last July, Obama pledged to veto any agreement that was not long-term. Definition of long term? By another amazing coincidence, any deal large enough to get him past Election Day (and thus avoid another such crisis next year).

●On Tuesday it was revealed that last year the administration pressured Solyndra, as it was failing, to delay its planned Oct. 28 announcement of layoffs until Nov. 3, the day after the midterm election.

A contemporaneous e-mail from a Solyndra investor noted: “Oddly they didn’t give a reason for that date.” The writer was obviously born yesterday. The American electorate was not — and it soon gets to decide who really puts party over nation and reelection above all.

We can’t wait.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your pathetic attempt to blame Obama for this is beyond absurd, and everyone who knows the Solyndra timeline is awares of it.

And your ignorance to who George Kaiser is, the fact he is a billionaire and visited the White House more than Obama's blood family combined makes you once again the poster child of a chump!

Everyone doesn't know the Solyndra timeline but hopefully they will by the next election. And hopefully knowing who George Kaiser is will bring about the change Obama ran on, the first time.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And your ignorance to who George Kaiser is,

I know who George Kaiser is. What is this even supposed to mean? You just say things that make no sense

Everyone doesn't know the Solyndra timeline but hopefully they will by the next election.

Good grief. Maybe you'll learn it, too. The Energy Department eventually approved the loan (after Bush tried to get it pushed through without adequate due diligence, and Energy refused) after Solyndra lied to the government and falsified the additional paperwork Energy asked for. The majority of key investors in Solyndra were Republicans, btw.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I know who George Kaiser is. What is this even supposed to mean? You just say things that make no sense

The majority of key investors in Solyndra were Republicans, btw.

The majority investor was George Kaiser. Show me the list of Republicans please.

BTW if your statement had any truth to it do you think Republicans would be pushing Chu and Co. as they are?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The majority investor was George Kaiser. Show me the list of Republicans please.

It's nice to see you admit your ignorance of the subject. I've posted that twice for you, here, previously.

Major investors included George Kaiser Foundation, U.S. Venture Partners, CMEA Ventures, Redpoint Ventures, Virgin Green Fund, Madrone Capital Partners, RockPort Capital Partners, Argonaut Private Equity, Masdar and Artis Capital Management.

You'll just have to do a little investigation, to see who owns all those investment companies. In fact, all you have to do is google "Solyndra", and ignore any hits off right-wing blogs.

BTW if your statement had any truth to it do you think Republicans would be pushing Chu and Co. as they are?

Sigh ... the Republicans are desperate to try something, anything, to attack Obama for the election. But of course, that can't possibly be the reason the only people who think there is a "scandal" is Red State, Big Government, and Faux News.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7AM03220111123