Solargate

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i can't help but wonder if....

the feds decided to just take all the money they've spent on all these now failed programs, and put it all towards beefing up ss payments-would more retirement age people have retired or could retire, thereby forcing firms to ship more jobs overseas thus increasing unemployment, etc, etc...and actually having something useful come from all the spending?
perhaps instead of pushing to give money to states to hire teachers (money lasts one whole year), put it where it will make a real change.

and for crying out loud, states who allow public employees to 'retire' and then rehire them a month later, stop doing that! how does that put one unemployed person into a job?? it doesn't!

ftfy, Let me guess, you haven't been in the workforce a bit.

[geeker2]

and the beat goes on....

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...lie_under_oath

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

ftfy, Let me guess, you haven't been in the workforce a bit.

i've always worked, i can't imagine not working.

[Riot]

Oh, it will be a pleasure to vote all of these losers out of office

Republicans keep on getting caught with their pants down over their Solyndra scandalmongering:

The loan was never approved by the Energy Department, but Upton’s advocacy for United Solar stands in contrast to his recent skepticism about the government’s clean-energy loan guarantee program.

Upton has pursued two lines of argument against the administration over Solyndra. First, he says the government shouldn't pick winners and losers. Second, he says Solyndra shouldn't have been given the loan because it was a company in trouble. This news exposes the hypocrisy of both arguments—not only did he urge the government to "pick a winner," he urged it to pick a winner that was on the cusp of failure.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1...irm?via=blog_1

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, it will be a pleasure to vote all of these losers out of office

The loan was never approved by the Energy Department, but Upton’s advocacy for United Solar stands in contrast to his recent skepticism about the government’s clean-energy loan guarantee program.

Perhaps if a guy like George Kaiser, Obama's billionaire fundraiser, was a lead investor, like he was for Solyndra, it would have been approved like Solyndra was. Seventeen visits to the White House and Solyndra was never discussed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the loan wasn't approved, however it appears that the Auburn Hills company outlasted Solyndra despite a $500 billion disadvantage.

The Fed is broke it does not need to be loaning or giving anyone, anything. Period!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Perhaps if a guy like George Kaiser, Obama's billionaire fundraiser, was a lead investor, like he was for Solyndra, it would have been approved like Solyndra was. Seventeen visits to the White House and Solyndra was never discussed.

Solyndra wasn't approved first, either. Then they came back with redone paperwork, and lied to the government, making them look better on paper than they were.

Yeah .. that whole, "lied to the government thing", is a problem for them. Not the government.

And I don't notice you getting your panties in a wad because the Waltons, of Wal-Mart fame, long-time conservative Republican supporters and donors, were right on the front line of Solyndra investment as huge backers.

Your pathetic attempt to blame Obama for this is beyond absurd, and everyone who knows the Solyndra timeline is awares of it. Go sell your silly Faux News-Daily Caller-Big Government nonsense elsewhere. People know better.

[Danzig]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...CWN_story.html

The great pipeline sellout

In 2008, the slogan was “Yes We Can.” For 2011-12, it’s “We Can’t Wait.” What happened in between? Candidate Obama, the vessel into which myriad dreams were poured, met the reality of governance.

His near-$1 trillion stimulus begat a stagnant economy with 9 percent unemployment. His attempt at Wall Street reform left in place a still-too-big-to-fail financial system, as vulnerable today as when he came into office. His green-energy fantasies yielded Solyndra cronyism and a cap-and-trade regime not even a Democratic Congress would pass.



and at the end:


Nor is this the first time Obama’s election calendar trumped the national interest:

● Obama’s decision to wind down the Afghan surge in September 2012 is militarily inexplicable. It comes during the fighting season. It was recommended by none of his military commanders. It is explicable only as a talking point for the final days of his reelection campaign.

● At the height of the debt-ceiling debate last July, Obama pledged to veto any agreement that was not long-term. Definition of long term? By another amazing coincidence, any deal large enough to get him past Election Day (and thus avoid another such crisis next year).

●On Tuesday it was revealed that last year the administration pressured Solyndra, as it was failing, to delay its planned Oct. 28 announcement of layoffs until Nov. 3, the day after the midterm election.

A contemporaneous e-mail from a Solyndra investor noted: “Oddly they didn’t give a reason for that date.” The writer was obviously born yesterday. The American electorate was not — and it soon gets to decide who really puts party over nation and reelection above all.

We can’t wait.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your pathetic attempt to blame Obama for this is beyond absurd, and everyone who knows the Solyndra timeline is awares of it.

And your ignorance to who George Kaiser is, the fact he is a billionaire and visited the White House more than Obama's blood family combined makes you once again the poster child of a chump!

Everyone doesn't know the Solyndra timeline but hopefully they will by the next election. And hopefully knowing who George Kaiser is will bring about the change Obama ran on, the first time.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And your ignorance to who George Kaiser is,

I know who George Kaiser is. What is this even supposed to mean? You just say things that make no sense

Everyone doesn't know the Solyndra timeline but hopefully they will by the next election.

Good grief. Maybe you'll learn it, too. The Energy Department eventually approved the loan (after Bush tried to get it pushed through without adequate due diligence, and Energy refused) after Solyndra lied to the government and falsified the additional paperwork Energy asked for. The majority of key investors in Solyndra were Republicans, btw.