Empire Way

RolloTomasi · #1 11-13-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Apt comparison.

Don't get me wrong. I'm just pointing out the parallels between two route-type horses who won sprint debuts impressively late in their two year old season. I anticipate that Empire Way will incite just as much enthusiasm as Dialed In did last year at this time.

However, the comparison ends there. Empire Way has clearly proven today that he is much better than this year's Florida Derby winner.

hockey2315 · #2 11-13-2011, 09:01 PM

I still don't really see the parallels. Their debuts were very different. Obviously Empire Way needs to run way faster if he's going to be competitive in real races. . . if he turns out to be a one turn horse, he won't be anything special at all.

RolloTomasi · #3 11-13-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Obviously Empire Way needs to run way faster if he's going to be competitive in real races. . . if he turns out to be a one turn horse, he won't be anything special at all.

This is nearly the complete antithesis to your first post. Thanks, I'll get off the merry-go-round here.

hockey2315 · #4 11-13-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

This is nearly the complete antithesis to your first post. Thanks, I'll get off the merry-go-round here.

My point is that if you think he's really a one-turn horse, then he's in trouble. I, however, don't think he is. . . at all.

Kasept · #5 11-14-2011, 07:56 AM

65 Beyer

FATPIANO · #6 11-14-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

65 Beyer

OUCH

blackthroatedwind · #7 11-14-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

65 Beyer

That should propel him to greatness.

freddymo · #8 11-14-2011, 09:28 AM

I am just hoping Pedigree Ann is willing and able to step in here and rectify all the misconceptions of these silly BSF and what they DONT mean. Once Ann straightens out the issues and speaks on the regal nature of this family all will be enlightened to REALITY not some silly figure..

Come on Ann HELP

#9 11-14-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

65 Beyer

Wow. That's a shock. Visually it looked alot better than that. BTW kids don't be fooled by how the rider either drives or doesn't. I've learned over the years to TRUST THE NUMBER. I've seen a thousand races where the jocks was motionless but the horse especially a young one was doing his best. The horses don't have the reasoning in their minds to gear it down. They just run. Rosario asked him to roll pretty good going to the quarter pole. From there in regardless of what he did I expect Empire Way was pretty much doing close to his best. The numbers tend to be the closest things to fact. Adjusting off those with something tough to quantify usually is not nearly as reliable. TRUST THE NUMBERS. Will be very interesting to see what Thoro-graph and Ragozin give him.

blackthroatedwind · #10 11-14-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Wow. That's a shock. Visually it looked alot better than that. BTW kids don't be fooled by how the rider either drives or doesn't. I've learned over the years to TRUST THE NUMBER. I've seen a thousand races where the jocks was motionless but the horse especially a young one was doing his best. The horses don't have the reasoning in their minds to gear it down. They just run. Rosario asked him to roll pretty good going to the quarter pole. From there in regardless of what he did I expect Empire Way was pretty much doing close to his best. The numbers tend to be the closest things to fact. Adjusting off those with something tough to quantify usually is not nearly as reliable. TRUST THE NUMBERS. Will be very interesting to see what Thoro-graph and Ragozin give him.

Piece of information, Vic.....most people here understand horse racing better than you.