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FATPIANO 11-13-2011 03:47 PM

Empire Way
 
a full brother to Royal Delta debuts today in the 4th at Hollywood,

RockHardTen1985 11-13-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 817565)
a full brother to Royal Delta debuts today in the 4th at Hollywood,

I prefer the 2 and the 5 in this spot. Actually this race looks pretty dam good on paper. Hopefully a few of them can run now and long term.

RockHardTen1985 11-13-2011 04:06 PM

Wow was I wrong. He never touched that 1. Visually impressive, but kinda slow.

hockey2315 11-13-2011 07:01 PM

He's going to be a serious force on the Derby trail. He wants no part of 6 1/2f.

RolloTomasi 11-13-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 817619)
He's going to be a serious force on the Derby trail. He wants no part of 6 1/2f.

That's what they said about Dialed In last year around this time. Of course, he was a force up until the actual Classics.

dino 11-13-2011 07:08 PM

John White touted this horse a month ago. He's bred to run all day so winning at 6 1/2 could mean he has some real talent.

hockey2315 11-13-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 817621)
That's what they said about Dialed In last year around this time. Of course, he was a force up until the actual Classics.

Apt comparison. :rolleyes:

RolloTomasi 11-13-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 817625)
Apt comparison. :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong. I'm just pointing out the parallels between two route-type horses who won sprint debuts impressively late in their two year old season. I anticipate that Empire Way will incite just as much enthusiasm as Dialed In did last year at this time.

However, the comparison ends there. Empire Way has clearly proven today that he is much better than this year's Florida Derby winner.

hockey2315 11-13-2011 09:01 PM

I still don't really see the parallels. Their debuts were very different. Obviously Empire Way needs to run way faster if he's going to be competitive in real races. . . if he turns out to be a one turn horse, he won't be anything special at all.

RolloTomasi 11-13-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 817628)
Obviously Empire Way needs to run way faster if he's going to be competitive in real races. . . if he turns out to be a one turn horse, he won't be anything special at all.

This is nearly the complete antithesis to your first post. Thanks, I'll get off the merry-go-round here.

hockey2315 11-13-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 817629)
This is nearly the complete antithesis to your first post. Thanks, I'll get off the merry-go-round here.

My point is that if you think he's really a one-turn horse, then he's in trouble. I, however, don't think he is. . . at all.

Kasept 11-14-2011 07:56 AM

65 Beyer

FATPIANO 11-14-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 817645)
65 Beyer

OUCH

blackthroatedwind 11-14-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 817645)
65 Beyer

That should propel him to greatness.

freddymo 11-14-2011 09:28 AM

I am just hoping Pedigree Ann is willing and able to step in here and rectify all the misconceptions of these silly BSF and what they DONT mean. Once Ann straightens out the issues and speaks on the regal nature of this family all will be enlightened to REALITY not some silly figure..

Come on Ann HELP

blackthroatedwind 11-14-2011 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 817652)
I am just hoping Pedigree Ann is willing and able to step in here and rectify all the misconceptions of these silly BSF and what they DONT mean. Once Ann straightens out the issues and speaks on the regal nature of this family all will be enlightened to REALITY not some silly figure..

Come on Ann HELP

She's waiting until after his next race to tell us why he ran the way he did. However, from now on she will only be posting in the " Screening Room."

freddymo 11-14-2011 10:00 AM

Well that is Mean! I hope Steve starts a "Friends of Anne" Room that is by invite only.. You won't be getting an invite that's for sure! It's only for the real custodians of racing, not the bad people who don't love the race horse.

FATPIANO 11-14-2011 11:12 AM

Just saw the race, and thought it was visually impressive, hope for really big things for this horse..

RockHardTen1985 11-14-2011 12:05 PM

As far as a Derby horse goes, how about Consortium from Kiaran M, won for fun Saturday and did it the right way. My only problem with him is he reminds me a lot of Alpha. Alpha might still be OK, but no one can argue that he has not disapointed after his impressive debut at Saratoga.

santana 11-14-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 817660)
Just saw the race, and thought it was visually impressive, hope for really big things for this horse..


That 65 beyer was without ever being asked at all.... I also thought he looked pretty good.


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