Goldikova: Lost a step or as good as ever?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Fair, enough... but were you saying the same any of the last 3 years? As I said, I really haven't looked at the other entrants enough in depth yet to really make up my mind. I might end up agreeing with you. It's just she's the known commodity, and without looking that hard it's pretty fair to say every year that what she faces in Europe is usually is as strong if not stronger than what she faces when she comes here.

I have tossed her the last 2 years.

[pmayjr]

all I'm getting at, is I don't wanna get beat by her. I don't wanna be wrong in that race by leaving her out. Even if she's over-bet. Will I single her? Hell no. But you gotta have her on your tickets I think, because you'll feel dumb about it after if you don't.

Sucks too, because as fun as she is to watch, the Mile you could argue was always crazy for long-shots and unpredictability. I'm still scratching my head on how the Rock lost that race years ago. But on the flip side, I had Singletary.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

all I'm getting at, is I don't wanna get beat by her. I don't wanna be wrong in that race by leaving her out. Even if she's over-bet. Will I single her? Hell no. But you gotta have her on your tickets I think, because you'll feel dumb about it after if you don't.

Sucks too, because as fun as she is to watch, the Mile you could argue was always crazy for long-shots and unpredictability. I'm still scratching my head on how the Rock lost that race years ago. But on the flip side, I had Singletary.

I'll single her in the multi race bets and go deeper elsewhere. I also come up with some strategy to key her UNDER on the verticals. You don't have to spend a whole lot to accomplish a decent hedge with dime supers and $.50 trifecta wagering- unless you think she's off the board. Last year, with the popular Gio Ponti 2nd, you had a $589 ($1) super and $250 tri ($2). But two years ago you had a $705 tri and a $6,628 ($1) super - dont forget Courageous Cat.

I think spreading out the pick 4 in the mile is a waste. Even if she loses, I don't know who is going to do it and it would cost me a fortune to get as deep as I would want to be with her out.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have tossed her the last 2 years.

and what did the P4 pay last year with her and Blame in it?

Do you really want to miss hitting the P4 by missing her leg? I don't

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by robfla

and what did the P4 pay last year with her and Blame in it?

Do you really want to miss hitting the P4 by missing her leg? I don't

I said pick 3's. I get what your saying.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by robfla

and what did the P4 pay last year with her and Blame in it?

Do you really want to miss hitting the P4 by missing her leg? I don't

I tossed Blame 2 LOL.
Remember I was a big Quality Road guy, I used him and big Z.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I tossed Blame 2 LOL.
Remember I was a big Quality Road guy, I used him and big Z.

ahh.......... I'm sure everyone remembers the I had a dream thread.
Those were the good ole days.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

ahh.......... I'm sure everyone remembers the I had a dream thread.
Those were the good ole days.

His Classic run was bad. My dream may have put the mush on him.

[NTamm1215]

The field she faced in 2008 was atrocious. Kip Deville was the 2nd choice off an inexplicable 5th place finish in the Woodbine Mile. Whatsthescript was the 3rd choice and was coming in off a 60 day layoff. The rest of the field was highlighted by Shakis, Daytona, and Precious Kitten. The utterly impossible US Ranger was only 17-1.

The 2009 field had a ton of speed and the biggest question was whether she was going to be able to stay as close as she did in 2008 and be successful. Of course, she proved in that race that you can put her anywhere and she'll be fine. With Delegator and Zacinto running so poorly the competition was weak when push came to shove.

Proviso and Sidney's Candy took serious money last year. A filly who had been fortunate to win one time after another against her own sex and a one-time turf winner coming in off a nearly 90 day layoff who had missed his prep. Paco Boy was a horse whose measure she simply had and Gio Ponti was never going to make up the ground Dominguez asked him to that day.

A healthy Courageous Cat, a razor sharp Turallure, and Gio Ponti off his best effort of 2011 prove a formidable threat and that's not even touching on Strong Suit and Byword. This may not be the toughest group she's faced in the BC but it sure as hell isn't the easiest.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The field she faced in 2008 was atrocious. Kip Deville was the 2nd choice off an inexplicable 5th place finish in the Woodbine Mile. Whatsthescript was the 3rd choice and was coming in off a 60 day layoff. The rest of the field was highlighted by Shakis, Daytona, and Precious Kitten. The utterly impossible US Ranger was only 17-1.

The 2009 field had a ton of speed and the biggest question was whether she was going to be able to stay as close as she did in 2008 and be successful. Of course, she proved in that race that you can put her anywhere and she'll be fine. With Delegator and Zacinto running so poorly the competition was weak when push came to shove.

Proviso and Sidney's Candy took serious money last year. A filly who had been fortunate to win one time after another against her own sex and a one-time turf winner coming in off a nearly 90 day layoff who had missed his prep. Paco Boy was a horse whose measure she simply had and Gio Ponti was never going to make up the ground Dominguez asked him to that day.

A healthy Courageous Cat, a razor sharp Turallure, and Gio Ponti off his best effort of 2011 prove a formidable threat and that's not even touching on Strong Suit and Byword. This may not be the toughest group she's faced in the BC but it sure as hell isn't the easiest.

Win or lose its great the brothers Chanel have her racing and not producing foals/ Most G1 winners make 4 starts not enter and race in 4 BC's. Now lets all hold hands and sing

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have tossed her the last 2 years.

and the Pk-3s surrounding her have paid handsomely.