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[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

within two years? we've been in afganistan for ten. bin laden just got killed, didn't he? not eight years ago, that's for sure.

You know darn well Bush had skeleton troops in Afghanistan, dinking around, and Obama pushed alot more into there (as he promised as a candidate). That's what I mean. With two years of the troop surge.

Bush was too busy illegally invading Iraq to give his defense contractors money. None of that free loot available in Afghanistan. No wonder Bush targeted Iraq.

my point is, if the war in afganistan is either unwinnable, or unendable, than it shouldn't have been started.
bin laden died in pakistan, but you know that.

Yes. From a mission launched from the Afghan border, that couldn't have been launched from anywhere else.

anyway, not a typical 'war', so it can't be waged in typical fashion. conventional warfare hasn't been the key, nor has it gotten us much in that country.

It's not supposed to be "a war". We were supposed to be targeting Al Quaeda. Bush dinked around. Obama went in and got bin Laden. Time to come home.

drones, spying, direct targeting on the other hand, it's worked wonders.

I agree. The way to target terrorists.

now, we may well have been done with all this bs over there in afganistan by now, had our country and military not been side-tracked into iraq all this time. that mistake, more than any other, is what's caused this to drag on for so long. poor handling from the start.

Yes, indeed.

Go watch Australian racing! Cox Cup. Black Caviar running, Karuta Queen!

Fossil water and oil.

We'll see if things get better in Libya. It's a blast for blacks.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

You know darn well Bush had skeleton troops in Afghanistan, dinking around, and Obama pushed alot more into there (as he promised as a candidate). That's what I mean. With two years of the troop surge.

Bush was too busy illegally invading Iraq to give his defense contractors money. None of that free loot available in Afghanistan. No wonder Bush targeted Iraq.



Yes. From a mission launched from the Afghan border, that couldn't have been launched from anywhere else.



It's not supposed to be "a war". We were supposed to be targeting Al Quaeda. Bush dinked around. Obama went in and got bin Laden. Time to come home.



I agree. The way to target terrorists.


Yes, indeed.

Go watch Australian racing! Cox Cup. Black Caviar running, Karuta Queen!

why are you posting stuff as tho you're telling me something i don't know?? do you have alzheimers or something? i've said those things before, that bush dithered, that afganistan has dragged on because they took the focus off of that country, etc, etc. that it's all been fubar from the get go.

the reason i said 'war' is because altho the govt denied that 9-11 was an act of war (if they declared it as such, the onus would have falled on the govt, not insurers, to cover all the losses) yet they then said it was a 'war on terror'. it's been pushed as a war from the get go by our federal govt. but, as i said, you can't fight an unconventional war in a conventional manner. then, the fact that afganistan is how it is, also impedes any true progress there. if the powers that be wish to stay there until they have achieved everything they wish, we will NEVER get out of there. they need to be happy with what they've done, as it's about as much as they'll ever accomplish there. that country is a pathetic third world tribal mess. wipe the dust off our boots and be done with it.

[bigrun]

[Danzig]

oh, now, that's not fair at all big run!

some are born great
some achieve greatness
some have greatness thrust upon them.
thank goodness for barack obama. four more years!!

[somerfrost]

As much as Obama disappoints me, the Republicans (thus far at least) have produced no viable replacement. We don't need someone who talks directly to God, wants to reverse equality for those who don't meet their standards, and clings to overly simplistic approaches to complex problems.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

As much as Obama disappoints me, the Republicans (thus far at least) have produced no viable replacement. We don't need someone who talks directly to God, wants to reverse equality for those who don't meet their standards, and clings to overly simplistic approaches to complex problems.

too true. so, we either get stuck with our current pres, or a bad replacement.

Ron Paul is a viable choice. You're just conditioned to be stupid and selfish. Major cuts will be needed. Fat selfish f.ucks don't sacrifice or share so it's not happening.

So vote for the big bag of suck. F.uck the future.

[Riot]

I'm sick of Obama not getting credit where it's due. I'm not thrilled with all he's done.

But let's try attacking the Republican party, for literally doing fucl<ing nothing at all for two-three years, and bragging about that being their party platform.

They don't like his jobs bill? How about at least letting it come to the floor of the Senate for a debate and discussion, and so amendments can be added, and for a vote?

They are completely obstructing the Supercomittee, too - they haven't even allowed agreement on routine procedure.

Our Constitution requires 51 Senate votes - the Republicans are still using parlimentary procedure to require 60 for every. single. vote. Everything is a cloture vote.

The last remnants of the Republican party is completely obstructing our government, preventing anything from happening, and they all need to be gone.

You can't debate policy differences between parties, and help US citizens, on the national scale when one political party simply refuses to get involved, and has as it's deliberate goal the complete obstruction of the other party, and literally grinding our government to a halt and preventing that discussion.

No wonder Occupy Wall Street is growing, while successfully refusing to be co-opted by any political party. The American people are angry, and they've had enough of this Republican blockage ****. 65% of Americans support Occupy Wall Street, and 60% support the very policies the Republicans are currently blocking from discussion.

These Washington loons (of both parties) think they are "safe" in their power positions. They'd better reassess.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

oh, now, that's not fair at all big run!

some are born great
some achieve greatness
some have greatness thrust upon them.
thank goodness for barack obama. four more years!!

Which one does this guy fit into?......Need a special category huh...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why are you posting stuff as tho you're telling me something i don't know?? do you have alzheimers or something? i've said those things before, that bush dithered, that afganistan has dragged on because they took the focus off of that country, etc, etc. that it's all been fubar from the get go.

Wow. Remind me to stop agreeing with you. It makes you rude.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wow. Remind me to stop agreeing with you. It makes you rude.

my mistake. it didnt come across to me as agreement. i thought you were lecturing.