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08-25-2011, 05:34 PM
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Korea Germany Portugal Japan Scotland New Zealand Switzerland Mexico Spain England Czech Republic Turkey Slovenia Ireland Belgium (FI) Australia Greece Netherlands Belgium (Fr) Denmark Chile Finland Austria Italy France United States Who pays more than the United States, in straight unadjusted teachers salary after 15 years experience? Luxemburg Korea Switzerland Germany Ireland Japan Scotland England Netherlands Australia United States http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...und-the-world/
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08-25-2011, 05:42 PM
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08-25-2011, 05:44 PM
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08-25-2011, 06:56 PM
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08-25-2011, 07:44 PM
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08-25-2011, 10:43 PM
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Teachers and autoworkers unions are almost purely political organiations now. They still fleece as much as possible but mainly to add more money to their own account.
Comparing the US to countries like Luxemborg is silly. When adjusted for GDP of course we will look worse. The idea that Mexican teachers make more money than our teachers is funny. I had a guy working for me as a groom a few years ago from Mexico that was great at fixing stuff around the barn. I asked him what he did in Mexico. He said he worked as an electrician for the power company. I asked him why he was here since that job sounded like it should pay pretty well. He said he made about $125 a week there (which he thought was ok) but the real reason he quit was that sometimes when they were on the poles if too many people called to complain about power being off, the supervisors would turn the power back on. A guess a couple ofhis coworkers got zapped. He made around $450 a week here. So if skilled electricians were making $125 a week in an extremely dangerous job I'm doubting that Mexican teacjers are making out really well. The idea that 45k as an entry level salary is not good in most area's of the country is laughable.
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08-25-2011, 11:37 PM
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08-26-2011, 07:12 AM
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08-26-2011, 02:03 PM
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Or, our middle class has been effectively destroyed for years, the majority of the wealth of this country is now in the hands of a few, businesses are holding 1.2 trillion out of the economy, our jobs are all overseas, Wall Street no longer makes money by growing strong corporations but by gambling on their success or failure at the expensive of investor funds, corporate CEOS have zero incentive to make their businesses successful for their investors as they still get million-dollar bonuses even if their company goes bankrupt, the days of steady 8-10% investment growth over years of time in 401K's is long gone, and the GOP wants even more tax breaks for their corporate masters, the poor suffering businessmen. Who would make jobs, lots, of jobs, tons fo jobs, if we would just cut their taxes even more, so they would feel ... "confident". Oh, yeah, and can we disassemble all regulation - workplace safety, employee, EPA, etc. - to make it more convenience for them to do whatever the hell they want with no accountability? Great! Thanks.
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08-27-2011, 01:10 PM
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08-27-2011, 01:14 PM
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How can that not be valid? Teachers are not paid hourly, they are paid a salary for a "school year", whatever that might be locally. It's clear that in the US we don't value our teachers, financially, as highly as many other countries. That's a shame. If you want the best and brightest in the profession, you treat them well and make the profession respected and admired in society. In the United States, we blame teachers for causing financial hardships on our local taxing districts (yeah, like they physically go in and steal the money? That it doesn't take the town to tax and decide what to spend on?) and we call them freeloaders and insult them. And bust their unions.
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08-27-2011, 05:05 PM
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of course it matters. whenever it is suggested that school go all year, raher than half, the first things teachers say is they would have to be paid more for working more.
also, what are class sizes elsewhere? benefits, pensions, etc? days off, hours per day worked, planning periods, etc. its all part of the total compensation package. hamburg jr high and hs teachers have students in their classes for a sum total of four and a half hours a day for 178 days a year~which is less than half of a year. how does that schedule and pay compare to the countries you listed?
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08-27-2011, 06:04 PM
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Try searching on each country, and determining their school year, benefits, pension, class size, etc. if you would like to know it. It's apparent that for a school year, for teachers with 15 years experience, many other countries pay more than the US, whether compared by GDP or even by straight salary. If you suspect that's not true for some reason, or want to break that information down into hourly salary, etc, do the research and post that for us.
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