Santa Anita set to land 2012 Breeders’ Cup

[pointman]

Originally Posted by justindew

I hope you end up being the one who makes the argument to hold the BC at Belmont some day. Other than the "world class" argument (which you made three times), your other "points" are ridiculous. Just because it CAN hold 100,000 is irrelevent. It doesn't draw that many on BC day. And the handle that you described as "very strong" is lower than the handle would be at Churchill. Your point about being closer for Euros to ship is silly since Louisville is only another two hours by air. And say what you want about the weather. In 2001 at Belmont, it was friggen awful. And I suppose it can rain anywhere, so I won't bring up 2005.

Finally, saying that a race being run at one turn vs. two turns is "irrelevant" is perhaps the dumbest thing I have read on this site in a long time.

It is the same broken record with you. You say something stupid, you get called out on it, and you immediately resort to demeaning comments instead of an actual cogent defense of your never ending stupidity.

No one cares where the races start except you. Tracks have different configurations for different distances all across America, Belmont just happens to be unique but has always been considered a major racetrack. Since the Breeder's Cup began Belmont has been part of the rotation. Please tell me why it makes a difference whether a Championship is constested around 1 or 2 turns for any given Breeder's Cup distance or event. Considering that they ran "dirt championships" on rubber for 2 years I can't see why they would be concerned about 1 or 2 turn races.

How can you say that handle at Churchill will be higher than at Belmont? The last time the Breeder's Cup was held at Belmont it had the highest total handle in the history of the Breeder's Cup to that point despite the weather and it was still only a one day event. The point of the Breeder's Cup was to showcase the top class racing end of year Championship around America, yet they don't want to run it on the best circuit in America and one of clearly the top 3. Is the chance of bad weather at Belmont any worse than it is at Churchill? If they were so concerned about weather, then why go to Woodbine. Who is to say that with a nice day Belmont can't draw much more than they did 6 years ago?

So please, tell me how my points are ridiculous, dewchebag. Keep talking out of your a$$

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correct me if I am wrong but the Met Mile winner is generally thought of as the best dirt miler, no?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

It is the same broken record with you. You say something stupid, you get called out on it, and you immediately resort to demeaning comments instead of an actual cogent defense of your never ending stupidity.

No one cares where the races start except you. Tracks have different configurations for different distances all across America, Belmont just happens to be unique but has always been considered a major racetrack. Since the Breeder's Cup began Belmont has been part of the rotation. Please tell me why it makes a difference whether a Championship is constested around 1 or 2 turns for any given Breeder's Cup distance or event. Considering that they ran "dirt championships" on rubber for 2 years I can't see why they would be concerned about 1 or 2 turn races.

How can you say that handle at Churchill will be higher than at Belmont? The last time the Breeder's Cup was held at Belmont it had the highest total handle in the history of the Breeder's Cup to that point despite the weather and it was still only a one day event. The point of the Breeder's Cup was to showcase the top class racing end of year Championship around America, yet they don't want to run it on the best circuit in America and one of clearly the top 3. Is the chance of bad weather at Belmont any worse than it is at Churchill? If they were so concerned about weather, then why go to Woodbine. Who is to say that with a nice day Belmont can't draw much more than they did 6 years ago?

So please, tell me how my points are ridiculous, dewchebag. Keep talking out of your a$$

can't argue with any of that-ny would be just as capable of bad weather as arlington and churchill, or monmouth and woodbine. belmont absolutely should be part of a rotation. i don't recall anyone having any complaints about racing there at past bc's. i certainly don't recall any issues about only having 1 turn in the races. i would think that'd be a good thing.