We're Doomed, He Hasn't a Clue

[Danzig]

it's all well and good to suggest changes to other programs-but if the govt would just buckle down and make the needed changes to what constitutes the bulk of fed. govt. spending, none of these other small issues would have to be addressed.
we do need tax reform. we also need entitlement reform. the tax break on housing isn't a budget buster-it probably does a lot more good than it does harm.
the cash for clunkers program wasn't a budget buster either.
we need to stop ignoring the elephant in the corner. he's not going anywhere.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's all well and good to suggest changes to other programs-but if the govt would just buckle down and make the needed changes to what constitutes the bulk of fed. govt. spending, none of these other small issues would have to be addressed.
we do need tax reform. we also need entitlement reform. the tax break on housing isn't a budget buster-it probably does a lot more good than it does harm.
the cash for clunkers program wasn't a budget buster either.
we need to stop ignoring the elephant in the corner. he's not going anywhere.

that would constitute the govt "looking in the mirror" to find the problem

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

that would constitute the govt "looking in the mirror" to find the problem

no, what we need are people who are willing to put themselves on the line, and perhaps not get re-elected, in order to fix the problems. what they also need to understand is that for every person saying 'i won't vote for you if you do...' there are others who say 'i won't vote for you if you don't....'



honestly, the more i think about it, the more i think the scenario could pan out. dems say absolutely no changes to ss/medicare. reps say absolutely no to taxes. so, get each to budge just a little on those two things; it would work wonders for us both now and in future. make them both give a bit on what they like most. then, both sides have their base pissed off at them-but also pissed at the other side at the same time! a win/win/win for everyone!!

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, what we need are people who are willing to put themselves on the line, and perhaps not get re-elected, in order to fix the problems. what they also need to understand is that for every person saying 'i won't vote for you if you do...' there are others who say 'i won't vote for you if you don't....'



honestly, the more i think about it, the more i think the scenario could pan out. dems say absolutely no changes to ss/medicare. reps say absolutely no to taxes. so, get each to budge just a little on those two things; it would work wonders for us both now and in future. make them both give a bit on what they like most. then, both sides have their base pissed off at them-but also pissed at the other side at the same time! a win/win/win for everyone!!

Perhaps a basic math class for all involved too. Not new math but actual math where the answer is important too.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Perhaps a basic math class for all involved too. Not new math but actual math where the answer is important too.

like mark pryor told bill maher in religulous, you don't have to pass an iq test to be a senator.