Standard and Poor's downgrades US to AA+

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

sure, the tea party had a helping hand, but they were FAR from alone in causing it.
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Baloney. Boehner and Obama compromised with $4 trillion and tax increases through loophole cutting (exactly what S & P's, Moody's, etc. wanted, because they talked to the President), and the Tea Party congressional Republicans nixed it.

Who held the good faith and credit of the US hostage by refusing to raise the debt ceiling? The Tea Party and the GOP.

Who created two months of drama over a routine raise of the debt ceiling? The Tea Party and the GOP.

And you question my sanity? Look at reality. No - Obama and the Dems didn't do any of that - they compromised while the GOP gave up nothing and brought this country to the brink of disaster. And the American people know that.

Name one thing the Dems or Obama did to obstruct raising the debt ceiling? You can't. It doesn't exist.

[Antitrust32]

who spend the original 14.2 trillion? you know, the thing that got us in this mess.

Answer: a mixture of GW and Obama policies.

they both fail and all of them in Washington caused this.

You are pretty much the only person I've read/heard that lets the Dems off the hook.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Name one thing the Dems or Obama did to obstruct raising the debt ceiling? You can't. It doesn't exist.

they shot down a handful of bills themselves. I'm not saying they were great bills but prob better than what was passed. and the Dems refuse to address reforming entitlements. thats a huge obstruction right there.

to believe the dems had nothing to do with the credit downgrade is batshit crazy.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

they shot down a handful of bills themselves. I'm not saying they were great bills but prob better than what was passed. and the Dems refuse to address reforming entitlements. thats a huge obstruction right there.
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Really? "A handful"? Which ones? Name them. You can't, it doesn't exist.

There were three "deal", and the Tea Party nixed them all. Only a few TP crossed over and voted for the ones that passed. Not the Dems. And the Dems agreed, although they didn't want to, to entitlement reforms. The Dems compromised, the old politician GOP compromised, the Tea Party is a bunch of idiotic, financial fools hell bent upon destroying this country to demagogue their ridiculous ideals.

Sorry - this is a completely false argument. Blaming the Dems for the Tea Party craziness is factually wrong.