herman cain

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

If the abuser is the father and he acts out of honor instead of hate, all is good? Did Casey Anthony hate her daughter? If she did't is it less of a crime? Should hate be more serious charge than murder?

After all you defended Riot's opinion that hate is worse than abuse.

Almost as abstract and out of touch as hope and change.

U two are/were made for each other.

what in the wide, wide world of sports does your post have to do with somer's above?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what in the wide, wide world of sports does your post have to do with somer's above?

The fact that hate and abuse are not perfectly interchangable. That and the fact I consider abuse a worse crime than hate. That's all. Goes back to Riot's idiotic followup.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The fact that hate and abuse are not perfectly interchangable. That and the fact I consider abuse a worse crime than hate. That's all. Goes back to Riot's idiotic followup.

i am pretty sure when somer was talking to you about hate, he was talking about your hate.
hate alone isn't the issue-i feel it's the acts committed due to hate that are the problem. whether it's abuse, torture, or keeping a group that already meets from building a larger place to fit their congregation.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i am pretty sure when somer was talking to you about hate, he was talking about your hate.hate alone isn't the issue-i feel it's the acts committed due to hate that are the problem. whether it's abuse, torture, or keeping a group that already meets from building a larger place to fit their congregation.

If I did hate the people why would I be concerned with their women?

I'm pretty sure I've been consistent hating the act of abuse and the abuse does not involve a small minority but rather involves the majority. We need to come to the aid of their women not ignore them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

If I did hate the people why would I be concerned with their women?

I'm pretty sure I've been consistent hating the act of abuse and the abuse does not involve a small minority but rather involves the majority. We need to come to the aid of their women not ignore them.

lol
yeah, ok...

you're right that women the world over need help. change hopefully will come with time, it sure won't happen over night.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The fact that hate and abuse are not perfectly interchangable. That and the fact I consider abuse a worse crime than hate. That's all. Goes back to Riot's idiotic followup.

Dell, again it helps when you actually read what I post before becoming critical of same. One last time, I never said hate and abuse are interchangeable, I said abuse comes from hate, is a subset of same, that they are interconnected with hate being the emotion that leads to abuse/violence against others. It is my position that when a person hates, they can then dehumanize and feel justified in committing violence. If you love and respect someone, you will not abuse or otherwise harm them.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Dell, again it helps when you actually read what I post before becoming critical of same. One last time, I never said hate and abuse are interchangeable, I said abuse comes from hate, is a subset of same, that they are interconnected with hate being the emotion that leads to abuse/violence against others. It is my position that when a person hates, they can then dehumanize and feel justified in committing violence. If you love and respect someone, you will not abuse or otherwise harm them.

Abuse without hate as in the case of a father abusing his daughter is what I was talking about. Unless the majority of muslims/hindus hate their daughters?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Abuse without hate as in the case of a father abusing his daughter is what I was talking about. Unless the majority of muslims/hindus hate their daughters?

And my position is there can be no abuse without hate....these men may profess to love their daughters, even believe it themselves, but when faced with the lives of their daughters vs their "honor" they choose violence against the one they profess to love...shows that they have dehumanized their daughter and consider her less than their precious "honor" and they hate her for daring to go against same.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The fact that hate and abuse are not perfectly interchangable. That and the fact I consider abuse a worse crime than hate. That's all. Goes back to Riot's idiotic followup.

Just because you can't remotely understand what other people post doesn't make them the idiot.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Just because you can't remotely understand what other people post doesn't make them the idiot.

when we're talking about stopping abuse to women/children and in some cases killing them and you blurt out 'I hate haters more than anything', what do you think it makes you if not an idiot!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

when we're talking about stopping abuse to women/children and in some cases killing them and you blurt out 'I hate haters more than anything', what do you think it makes you if not an idiot!

It makes me somebody who is able to understand alot more nuance than you are able to. And recognize sanctimony on sight.

[Riot]

Speaking of bigotry and hate, did anybody watch Herman Cain on Faux News today with Chris Wallace?

This man is disgusting. He did do a nice job of digging his political grave deeper.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Speaking of bigotry and hate, did anybody watch Herman Cain on Faux News today with Chris Wallace?

This man is disgusting. He did do a nice job of digging his political grave deeper.

i just read about his comments. wow.

so, doesn't the president take an oath that he will defend the constitution? he needs to read up on that document, so he'll see that he's wrong.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Speaking of bigotry and hate, did anybody watch Herman Cain on Faux News today with Chris Wallace?

This man is disgusting. He did do a nice job of digging his political grave deeper.

Bet his daughters are safe and free to marry who they want. Unlike the daughters of those wanting to build the mosque.

Is a porn store owner's freedom of speech violated when a community does not want his business?

BTW Their freedom to practice religion has never been infringed on as they have not been arrested, harmed or murdered unlike Christians in many of the countries they come from. Talk about bigotry and hate!