herman cain

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Just because you can't remotely understand what other people post doesn't make them the idiot.

when we're talking about stopping abuse to women/children and in some cases killing them and you blurt out 'I hate haters more than anything', what do you think it makes you if not an idiot!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

when we're talking about stopping abuse to women/children and in some cases killing them and you blurt out 'I hate haters more than anything', what do you think it makes you if not an idiot!

It makes me somebody who is able to understand alot more nuance than you are able to. And recognize sanctimony on sight.

[Riot]

Speaking of bigotry and hate, did anybody watch Herman Cain on Faux News today with Chris Wallace?

This man is disgusting. He did do a nice job of digging his political grave deeper.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Speaking of bigotry and hate, did anybody watch Herman Cain on Faux News today with Chris Wallace?

This man is disgusting. He did do a nice job of digging his political grave deeper.

i just read about his comments. wow.

so, doesn't the president take an oath that he will defend the constitution? he needs to read up on that document, so he'll see that he's wrong.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Speaking of bigotry and hate, did anybody watch Herman Cain on Faux News today with Chris Wallace?

This man is disgusting. He did do a nice job of digging his political grave deeper.

Bet his daughters are safe and free to marry who they want. Unlike the daughters of those wanting to build the mosque.

Is a porn store owner's freedom of speech violated when a community does not want his business?

BTW Their freedom to practice religion has never been infringed on as they have not been arrested, harmed or murdered unlike Christians in many of the countries they come from. Talk about bigotry and hate!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Bet his daughters are safe and free to marry who they want. Unlike the daughters of those wanting to build the mosque.

Is a porn store owner's freedom of speech violated when a community does not want his business?

BTW Their freedom to practice religion has never been infringed on as they have not been arrested, harmed or murdered unlike Christians in many of the countries they come from. Talk about bigotry and hate!

Interesting article on arranged marriages

http://www.professorshouse.com/Relat...lim-Religions/

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Interesting article on arranged marriages

http://www.professorshouse.com/Relat...lim-Religions/

"Consent of both husband and wife".

That matches what the grad students and other older Muslims I have met have said about it.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Consent of both husband and wife".

That matches what the grad students and other older Muslims I have met have said about it.

And consistent with what the 12 year old said when marrying an 80 year old. Not sure about the 5 and 8 year olds. But hey there are mature 5 year olds I'm sure.

The muslim grad students you've met are very lucky!

Here are the results of a brief search of a single newspaper.

I know your disdain for getting into peoples' personal lives but when it saves lives it has to be done.

The truth was worse than the lie.

Authorities and volunteers searching for a missing California teen thought she had been abducted by an Internet predator she met in a Facebook chat.

But the reality was far more troubling. Jessie Bender, a 13-year-old schoolgirl, was hiding from her parents because they were planning to pack her off to Pakistan for an arranged marriage to a total stranger, police said.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz1STrl6DHW

A fanatical Iraqi-born Muslim charged with killing his beautiful daughter because she wanted to live a normal American life whined yesterday that he ran her over by accident -- because he was concentrating on spitting at another woman.

Faleh Almaleki -- whose murder trial began in Phoenix -- sent his Jeep crashing into daughter Noor Almaleki, 20, on Oct. 20, 2009, in a parking lot after she left his abusive home to live with her boyfriend's family and refused an arranged marriage, officials said.

Prosecutors have called the woman's death an "honor killing," referring to a practice in some Islamic countries in which someone -- often a woman who is believed to have shamed the family -- is killed.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz1STs4fPWd

A Pakistani construction worker in Italy beat his wife to death with a brick for opposing the arranged marriage of their daughter, triggering a wave of outrage among Italian politicians Monday.

The daughter, 20-year-old Nosheen Butt, was in turn beaten by her brother with a stick over the same issue and was hospitalized with a cranial trauma and a broken arm.

The family lived in Novi, near the northern city of Modena.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...#ixzz1STsqOVXg

A 12-year-old Saudi girl unexpectedly gave up her petition for divorce from an 80-year-old man her father forced her to marry in exchange for a dowry, Saudi media reported Tuesday.

Despite support from human rights lawyers and child welfare advocates, the girl and her mother, who originally sought the divorce, withdrew the case Monday in a court in Buraidah, in Al-Qasim province, newspapers said.

The girl told the court that her marriage to the man was done with her agreement, according to Okaz newspaper.

"I agree to the marriage. I have no objection. This is out of filial respect to my father and obedience to his wish," she said.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...#ixzz1STt8Y093

Pakistani police crashed a bizarre wedding - to stop a 5-year-old girl from being married to a 7-year-old boy, authorities said yesterday.

Nisha, the bride, was in tears. She and her groom, Mohammad Waseem, were in traditional wedding clothes after a team of cops broke into the Muslim ceremony at a house in Karachi Thursday night.

About 100 guests were attending, said Deputy Superintendent of Police Malik Mazhar. The parents said the wedding had been arranged to end an eight-year feud between the two families, Express News TV reported.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...#ixzz1STtWC8jm

A devout Muslim woman from Pakistan who wed a fellow countryman who did not share her faith tried to stab him to death as he slept in their Staten Island home because she claimed he forced her to drink alcohol, eat pork and dress provocatively, officials said today.

Rabia Sarwar, 37, climbed onto her husband Sheikh Naseem’s chest around 3 a.m. yesterday and repeatedly slashed at his neck as he slept, officials said, screaming, "It’s time for you to die!"

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/s...#ixzz1STtpes2A

ON July 6, police say, a Pakistani named Chaudhry Rashid strangled his 25-year-old daughter San- deela Kanwal with a Bungee cord in her bedroom because she wanted to end her arranged marriage. This "honor killing" came not in Pakistan, but in Jonesboro, Ga. - a suburb 16 miles outside Atlanta.

At his arraignment, Rashid said through an Urdu interpreter that he was "not in the state of mind to talk because of the death of his daughter," but stated "I have done nothing wrong."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...#ixzz1STu69xLo

While the Sarwar case is sensational by dint of the role-reversal and the method of attempted murder (throat-slitting), it’s also pedestrian: Over the past two years, there have been about a dozen attempted or successful honor killings committed in the US.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...#ixzz1STuuDwCg

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Bet his daughters are safe and free to marry who they want. Unlike the daughters of those wanting to build the mosque.

Is a porn store owner's freedom of speech violated when a community does not want his business?

BTW Their freedom to practice religion has never been infringed on as they have not been arrested, harmed or murdered unlike Christians in many of the countries they come from. Talk about bigotry and hate!

a porn store owner always has freedom of speech. as for zoning laws, that's got nothing to do with speech rights.
freedom of religion on the other hand..if an area is zoned for whatever house of worship, regardless of denomination, they have every right to build there.

as for your last paragraph, that's the whole point. our country is supposed to be different, with anyone free to worship, or not worship, as they so choose-whether others like their religion or not.