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[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I like how you havent touched the post that is filled with FACTS, slotidiot.

P.S. - why did you lie? Halladay isn't #1 in baseball for WAR for pitchers. Verlander is (by a lot).

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

P.S. - why did you lie? Halladay isn't #1 in baseball for WAR for pitchers. Verlander is (by a lot).

oh yeah?

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...n=2011&month=0

who's the liar?

Halladay #1, Hamels #6, Lee #9

Verlander is 4th.

[slotdirt]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml

Right back at you, toots. Verlander #1.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...pitching.shtml

Right back at you, toots. Verlander #1.

you know what is funny. your little link shows that the phillies have the best pitchers in baseball!!! 19.2 WAR atlanta is second

suck on that!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you know what is funny. your little link shows that the phillies have the best pitchers in baseball!!! 19.2 WAR atlanta is second

suck on that!

the end

you even proved that you are wrong

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

P.S. - why did you lie? Halladay isn't #1 in baseball for WAR for pitchers. Verlander is (by a lot).

According to fangraphs that is not true

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...n=2011&month=0

Philadelphia has 3 of the top 9 in baseball. There really isnt any question of who has the best rotation when you consider how well Worley has pitched
4-1 with a 2.20 era since Oswalt was hurt. If you include Oswalt and (shckingly) Kendrick how can you possibly deny Philadelphia has the best starters in baseball? Because fat Joe Blanton had 6 bad starts?

And do you seriously think 99% of managers and GMs would take Verlander over Halladay the difference in age not withstanding? Really?

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

According to fangraphs that is not true

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...n=2011&month=0

Philadelphia has 3 of the top 9 in baseball. There really isnt any question of who has the best rotation when you consider how well Worley has pitched
4-1 with a 2.20 era since Oswalt was hurt. If you include Oswalt and (shckingly) Kendrick how can you possibly deny Philadelphia has the best starters in baseball? Because fat Joe Blanton had 6 bad starts?

And do you seriously think 99% of managers and GMs would take Verlander over Halladay the difference in age not withstanding? Really?

Considering Verlander is six years younger than Halladay, absolutely. How can age be not withstanding when we're talking about building a rotation today? Halladay probably has no more than five years left of above average pitching; Verlander probably has double that.

Anyway, It's not like I'm on some island saying Verlander has eclipsed Halladay as the best pitcher in baseball in 2011:

Tim McCarver just said it the other day (not that his opinion means much).

Gerardo Parra of the Diamondbacks called him the best pitcher in baseball after a start last month.

A CBSSports blog from last month quotes scouts as saying with game seven of the World Series on the line, they'd rather have Verlander on the mound than anybody else.

In any event, does his career match up to Halladay to this point? Absolutely not - Halladay is a 1st ballot HOF-er, as far as I'm concerned. But is he a better pitcher than Halladay today, July 13th, 2011? I think a lot of folks in baseball would probably say yes.