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Old 06-10-2011, 11:28 AM
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Similar effusive praise was heaped onto Ghostzapper during his career as well.

Haskin compared him to Forego, Dr. Fager, and Spectacular Bid in the span of one paragraph.

Frankel said Ghostzapper could win at a mile and a half on turf.
I thought GZ could do that too, as well as win the BC Sprint. Just because I thought Smarty was slightly better does not mean that I think GZ was your run of the mill $25k claimer. I thought both were brilliant.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:03 PM
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I thought GZ could do that too, as well as win the BC Sprint. Just because I thought Smarty was slightly better does not mean that I think GZ was your run of the mill $25k claimer. I thought both were brilliant.
I realize this is a different question than asking who should have won HOY but.... hypothetically, if a healthy and ready Smarty Jones had been entered in the '04 Woodward and BCC who do you really think would have won those races?
My guess is the same horse that won them in real life.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:17 PM
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Gary Stevens calling a horse one of the greatest ever... thats never happened before.
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Old 06-10-2011, 03:45 PM
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I realize this is a different question than asking who should have won HOY but.... hypothetically, if a healthy and ready Smarty Jones had been entered in the '04 Woodward and BCC who do you really think would have won those races?
My guess is the same horse that won them in real life.
I'd probably lean towards a split. The Woodward wasn't a really fast race. If I remember correctly, it was only given a 114 Beyer and that's a figure that the 3yo Smarty had already gone past. I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that Smarty could have improved as the year went on and his trainer had been able to train him the way he wanted to and picked out the races he wanted to instead of having to be forced into a schedule by the TC series. The weight break would have been nice too.
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