NBA Playoffs

King Glorious · #1 06-04-2011, 01:39 PM

So everyone that has the chance to earn a living doing what they love and has earned the right to chose where they want to work is wrong to do so? Let's see. We don't hear about the guy getting in trouble with the law. We don't hear about him cheating on his woman. We don't hear about him having five kids with five different women. We don't hear about him using drugs. What's so bad about the guy? He has fun playing a GAME and that's bad? His teammates love him. I just don't understand all of the hatred. Why would you assume he'd be a felon? Because he's black? What has he done to lead you to that assumption? I know a lot of people were turned off by the whole media circus with the decision thing and I also didn't like the way they did it. But what's forgotten in the whole thing is that he insisted that the proceeds go to charity. Yeah, I guess that's pretty horrible. So he chose to go play in Miami with another great player and try to win a title. Big deal. If you had to chose between Miami and Cleveland to live, you'd probably chose Miami also.

Dahoss · #2 06-04-2011, 01:45 PM

He insisted the proceeds go to charity because it looked good. If he wanted to give money to charity, just give it, don't make a spectacle out of it.

Everything is Hollywood with him. It's beyond having fun. It's classless. Just play the f'n game already.

horseofcourse · #3 06-04-2011, 02:02 PM

Good post KG. Can't really argue about anything except one thing. Me personally, you couldn't pay me to live in Miami. For me it's the worst weather on the planet. I do a ton of cross country skiing in season, and it's how I get most of my exercise so Miami would be misery for me. I'm a big fan of snow. Summer is painful for me which is why I sought out an extremely dry climate to live in. Maybe when I'm 80 I'll like warm and humid weather.

None of us know LeBron personally so none of us know what he's like behind the scenes. I'm guessing any one individual can focus on anything with LeBron and go to town. He is an ego maniac which is par for the course with stud athletes and why they are likely stud athletes. Those against can focus on that. those defending can make your points and stand fast. As a native northeastern Ohioan I only cheer for proper laundary so defended him when he donned the right laundary. I don't care much either way any more. I'm still pulling for Dallas!!

King Glorious · #4 06-04-2011, 02:03 PM

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He insisted the proceeds go to charity because it looked good. If he wanted to give money to charity, just give it, don't make a spectacle out of it.

Everything is Hollywood with him. It's beyond having fun. It's classless. Just play the f'n game already.

Whether he did it because it looked good or not, do you think that matters to the people that benefit from receiving it? As I said, I agreed that it was not the best way to handle it at all and he's admitted that if he had to do it over again, he'd do it different. But if that's the worst thing we have on a guy, how bad can he be?

I don't think that people understand what it's like to be a superstar athlete or entertainer in the world these days. At 13, he was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. He was put on a pedastal by others. He didn't place himself on it. How do you learn grace and humility when people are catering to you at that age? I think it's easy to look from the outside and say a person should be like this or should act like that but the reality is that none of us knows what it's like to be in those kinds of positions or how we would react if we were.

His antics on the court don't seem out of line with what anyone else is doing these days. It's not the 1980's or 1990's anymore. Personally, I feel like a lot of the stuff is over the top.....the screaming and pounding your chest after a big dunk or block, the holding up three fingers after a long shot, etc. I didn't do that stuff and I don't care for it now. But LeBron is hardly the only guy doing this stuff. It's just part of this generation of players. The older guys did it in different ways. Jordan and Bird are legendary for talking a ton of trash on the court.

Overall, I just don't see a bad guy. I see a guy that's well liked by his teammates and well respected among his peers. Listen to any interview and he's respectful of his opponents and he doesn't get in trouble. The biggest negative people seem to be able to come up with is that he's having too much fun.

horseofcourse · #5 06-04-2011, 02:09 PM

The closest comps I can come to for LeBron James are Lady Gaga and Sarah Palin. They're sort of the three stooges of the modern entertainment industry. they're all sort of rich, very me-me centered and know how to maximize profit. (of the 3, Gaga is by far the most intelligent and down to earth!)

Dahoss · #6 06-04-2011, 02:09 PM

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Overall, I just don't see a bad guy. I see a guy that's well liked by his teammates and well respected among his peers. Listen to any interview and he's respectful of his opponents and he doesn't get in trouble. The biggest negative people seem to be able to come up with is that he's having too much fun.

This is BS. There is a fine line between having fun and acting like a jackass. He acts like a jackass.

Not everyone acts like a jackass. Dirk might hold up 3 fingers or whatever, but he isn't banging his chest and screaming everytime he makes a play. Durant isn't either. Derrick Rose doesn't.

But you know who has perfected it? The Heatles.

King Glorious · #7 06-04-2011, 02:15 PM

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This is BS. There is a fine line between having fun and acting like a jackass. He acts like a jackass.

Not everyone acts like a jackass. Dirk might hold up 3 fingers or whatever, but he isn't banging his chest and screaming everytime he makes a play. Durant isn't either. Derrick Rose doesn't.

But you know who has perfected it? The Heatles.

But there are plenty of players who do those things. He's not the only one. I remember back some years ago when a Terrell Owens scored a touchdown in Dallas and went to the star in the middle of the field to celebrate. People went crazy. I know a lot of people are turned off by Chad Ochocinco's td celebrations. My thing has always been if you don't want them to celebrate, don't let them score. The best way to stop James from doing the things you don't like seeing him do is to stop him from making the plays or winning. To each his own though. He's a very polarizing figure. If I were playing, I'd love to play with him. If I were an owner, I'd love to have him on my team. If I'm a fan in any city, I'd love it if he were on my team because he instantly makes my team better.

Dahoss · #8 06-04-2011, 02:20 PM

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But there are plenty of players who do those things. He's not the only one. I remember back some years ago when a Terrell Owens scored a touchdown in Dallas and went to the star in the middle of the field to celebrate. People went crazy. I know a lot of people are turned off by Chad Ochocinco's td celebrations. My thing has always been if you don't want them to celebrate, don't let them score. The best way to stop James from doing the things you don't like seeing him do is to stop him from making the plays or winning. To each his own though. He's a very polarizing figure. If I were playing, I'd love to play with him. If I were an owner, I'd love to have him on my team. If I'm a fan in any city, I'd love it if he were on my team because he instantly makes my team better.

So because he isn't the only one acting like an idiot, it's okay? That's essentially what you are saying. How about wanting the great players to act like it? Is that a lot to ask?

Give me a guy like Durant over him anyday. A team first guy who isn't impressed by himself when he dunks a ball.

#9 06-04-2011, 02:26 PM

This was his idea for an intro to the NBA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT4tAltJ6oc

basketball Jesus. The savior of the sport.

I don't have to personally know the mother f.ucker to know he's a piece of s.hit.

King Glorious · #10 06-04-2011, 02:27 PM

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So because he isn't the only one acting like an idiot, it's okay? That's essentially what you are saying. How about wanting the great players to act like it? Is that a lot to ask?

Give me a guy like Durant over him anyday. A team first guy who isn't impressed by himself when he dunks a ball.

That's not essentially what I'm saying. I'm saying that I don't think it's acting like an idiot. It's not a big deal to me. I don't like it but I also don't like rap music but the majority of the guys in the league do. I just chalk it up to a different generation.

You can take Durant if you want to. Nothing wrong with that. You can take Rose or Duncan if you want to. Everyone has their preferences. I want the best player. By the way, did you see Durant's reaction when he destroyed Brendan Haywood with that dunk in the last series?

horseofcourse · #11 06-04-2011, 02:25 PM

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The best way to stop James from doing the things you don't like seeing him do is to stop him from making the plays or winning.

and that's exactly what Dallas finally did. for the first time all series they decided to play suffocating defense the last 7 minutes of game 2. It was incredible. the open 3 by Chalmers was the only field goal they made the last 7 minutes. that was a display by Dallas.

clyde · #12 06-04-2011, 02:35 PM

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So everyone that has the chance to earn a living doing what they love and has earned the right to chose where they want to work is wrong to do so? Let's see. We don't hear about the guy getting in trouble with the law. We don't hear about him cheating on his woman. We don't hear about him having five kids with five different women. We don't hear about him using drugs. What's so bad about the guy? He has fun playing a GAME and that's bad? His teammates love him. I just don't understand all of the hatred. Why would you assume he'd be a felon? Because he's black? What has he done to lead you to that assumption? I know a lot of people were turned off by the whole media circus with the decision thing and I also didn't like the way they did it. But what's forgotten in the whole thing is that he insisted that the proceeds go to charity. Yeah, I guess that's pretty horrible. So he chose to go play in Miami with another great player and try to win a title. Big deal. If you had to chose between Miami and Cleveland to live, you'd probably chose Miami also.

Oh shut up.