6/11 (BEL): Belmont Stakes Probables/Possibles

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

In the last 18 runnings of the Peter Pan since the great A.P. Indy in '92, no winner of the race has gone on to win the Belmont. And only upsetter Coastal and Woody Stephens-trained Danzig Connection were winners of both in the preceding decades.

Well of course it doesn't happen very often because the best 3yos are typically in the first two legs of the crown, rather than the Peter Pan. That doesn't change the fact that in terms of timing, its set up as a pretty good prep race for the Belmont.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well of course it doesn't happen very often because the best 3yos are typically in the first two legs of the crown, rather than the Peter Pan. That doesn't change the fact that in terms of timing, its set up as a pretty good prep race for the Belmont.

An even better reason then not to run in the Belmont:

He's probably not good enough.

Would it be foolish to skip the Belmont and run in the Pegasus and/or the Dwyer?

Adios Charlie, a nose back in the Peter Pan, is doing exactly that.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Adios Charlie, a nose back in the Peter Pan, is doing exactly that.

His distance limitations are well defined. It's not that Alternation is a world-beater, but he's a grinder who is bred to go far. Not to mention it won't take much to beat this group, as we've seen all year long.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

His distance limitations are well defined. It's not that Alternation is a world-beater, but he's a grinder who is bred to go far. Not to mention it won't take much to beat this group, as we've seen all year long.

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please FLIPPO is as disgusted about the skipping the Belmont as any of us are.. You dont skip the Belmont to hope to win the Pegasus

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

His distance limitations are well defined.

I don't think it's quite an open and shut case on Adios Charlie just yet. He's been in the exacta in all 4 starts at 4 different distances. He dusted the subsequent Preakness show horse in his stakes debut. His pedigree is littered with stakes winners at route distances.

Conquistador Cielo and Gone West ran in the Belmont.