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Old 05-24-2011, 09:45 AM
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Obama and every other President, Dell, have started negotiations from that point. Your intense decades-long study of Israel and the middle east surely has taught you our history. Obama also said that there should be land swaps. So at least you should be honest about "what Obama said".
Here is what Obama said verbatim.....

“So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, a secure Israel. The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.”

Show me one President ever say anything about basing new borders on the 1967 lines? You know besides Carter. And thank you for assuming I was dishonest about what Obama said and was able to requote him exactly as it came out of his mouth.

"We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines" Wonder if Iran believes the U.S. should open negotiations with the Pottawattomi Tribe in Wisconsin regarding expansion of the reservations based on the 1846 treaty? Just about as relevent.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:57 PM
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Show me one President ever say anything about basing new borders on the 1967 lines? You know besides Carter. And thank you for assuming I was dishonest about what Obama said and was able to requote him exactly as it came out of his mouth.
I see at least you've changed your contention to match what the President actually said. Good for you!

That has always been our foreign policy, Dell. What Obama said was nothing new, he simply stated it, and everyone who pays attention to the middle east knows it. In fact, alot of opinion pages talked about how he never said anything new in this speech. Why are you ignoring all that? It's strange. Do you not read any major newspapers, or watch the nightly news shows?

That's the truth, and every one but the crazy right-wing flying monkey show knows it.

Admit it, Dell - your contention that this President is "anti-Israel and pro-Palestine" is beyond absurd and simply wrong.
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I see at least you've changed your contention to match what the President actually said. Good for you!

That has always been our foreign policy, Dell. What Obama said was nothing new, he simply stated it, and everyone who pays attention to the middle east knows it. In fact, alot of opinion pages talked about how he never said anything new in this speech. Why are you ignoring all that? It's strange. Do you not read any major newspapers, or watch the nightly news shows?

That's the truth, and every one but the crazy right-wing flying monkey show knows it.
not true, i was watching fox either yesterday or the day before and they pointed it out
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Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
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Old 05-24-2011, 01:02 PM
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not true, i was watching fox either yesterday or the day before and they pointed it out
I never knew Hannity actually still regularly refers to the President of the United States as "the annointed one" on his show. It's sad, all that hate.

One thing about the 1990's, Clinton and your bud Gingrich did work together. It was a sad day for this country, when Mitch McConnell came out and said that their legislative goal was to make sure this President is not re-elected.
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