Team Valor to Pay Albarado

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GPK

John, he beat his wife. It's documented. How is that "perceived character"?

Well, while I consider wife beaters to be a low form of human life, my answer is that because most folks, myself included, perceive him thusly, I don't feel it's my right to judge him so I just let that to a higher power. Put another way, I perceive OBL to be a worthless, cowardly monster...but in the end, that's simply my opinion and the fact that it's shared by a lot of folks doesn't make it fact. It's a fact that he beat his wife, it's not some law of the universe that that he therefore is of a specified character, it's simply our opinion or our perception.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Well, while I consider wife beaters to be a low form of human life, my answer is that because most folks, myself included, perceive him thusly, I don't feel it's my right to judge him so I just let that to a higher power. Put another way, I perceive OBL to be a worthless, cowardly monster...but in the end, that's simply my opinion and the fact that it's shared by a lot of folks doesn't make it fact. It's a fact that he beat his wife, it's not some law of the universe that that he therefore is of a specified character, it's simply our opinion or our perception.

But you are judging him if you consider wife beaters a low form of human life, no?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GPK

But you are judging him if you consider wife beaters a low form of human life, no?

But what I'm saying is that I perceive him thusly, not that it is a fact that he is, I used the word consider...making my statement an expression of my opinion, my perception.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Well, while I consider wife beaters to be a low form of human life, my answer is that because most folks, myself included, perceive him thusly, I don't feel it's my right to judge him so I just let that to a higher power. Put another way, I perceive OBL to be a worthless, cowardly monster...but in the end, that's simply my opinion and the fact that it's shared by a lot of folks doesn't make it fact. It's a fact that he beat his wife, it's not some law of the universe that that he therefore is of a specified character, it's simply our opinion or our perception.

This post made me laugh out loud!

[declansharbor]

Mike Vick, 'making a mockery of the NFL' should be 'banned for life' from his livlihood for his crime, but a guy that smacked around his wife deserves 'basic respect regardless what his percieved image may be' ?!

I'm glad I dont see eye to eye with you, Buffy! Btw, feel free to join your fellow social defects in protesting the Eagles games! You guys reach new levels of lameness by the week! Let me know if you ever get to a game!!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Mike Vick, 'making a mockery of the NFL' should be 'banned for life' from his livlihood for his crime, but a guy that smacked around his wife deserves 'basic respect regardless what his percieved image may be' ?!

I'm glad I dont see eye to eye with you, Buffy! Btw, feel free to join your fellow social defects in protesting the Eagles games! You guys reach new levels of lameness by the week! Let me know if you ever get to a game!!

Sorry but I'm actually an Eagles fan and have nothing but respect for Mike Vick and the way he's turned his life around. Maybe, instead of shooting your mouth off without any idea what you are talking about you might take the time to actually engage in meaningful exchange of ideas....but then, what does the truth matter?

[declansharbor]

I actually pulled those quotes from one of YOUR posts in an old thread about Vick. 'Innocent until proven guilty', but still not exempt from your JUDGEMENT of him.

Toast your next drink to the wifebeater Albarado!! I, too, am happy to see that he's bein shown basic respect and he's getting paid!!! Yaaaaaaaaay!!!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I actually pulled those quotes from one of YOUR posts in an old thread about Vick. 'Innocent until proven guilty', but still not exempt from your JUDGEMENT of him.

Toast your next drink to the wifebeater Albarado!! I, too, am happy to see that he's bein shown basic respect and he's getting paid!!! Yaaaaaaaaay!!!

Yep, my judgement...not a statement of fact.

Its not like he needs the money. For a jockey, winning the derby is the most sought after trophy in a jockeys career. No amount of money will make up for it. If they really wanted to make it up for him, give him the mount back for the Preakness.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Sorry but I'm actually an Eagles fan and have nothing but respect for Mike Vick and the way he's turned his life around. Maybe, instead of shooting your mouth off without any idea what you are talking about you might take the time to actually engage in meaningful exchange of ideas....but then, what does the truth matter?

this explains so much

Mike Vick is a perfect match for the Eagles and their fans

[Indian Charlie]

Who really cares about this stuff?

And why can't I say the S word on here, while others can?

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

this explains so much

Mike Vick is a perfect match for the Eagles and their fans

Please explain how, you clueless blowhard!! You take shots every chance you get, with a huge axe to grind. Did you get beat up at the Vet or were you the second-rate, stumbling idiot Santa Claus? Or are you just another idiot that hangs on the ballsack of every national news outlet that pretends to know about anything that even resembles our fanbase?

Your a perfect match with the last $hit i took!

[Indian Charlie]

Someone needs to change his tampon.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Please explain how, you clueless blowhard!! You take shots every chance you get, with a huge axe to grind. Did you get beat up at the Vet or were you the second-rate, stumbling idiot Santa Claus? Or are you just another idiot that hangs on the ballsack of every national news outlet that pretends to know about anything that even resembles our fanbase?

Your a perfect match with the last $hit i took!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

This post made me laugh out loud!

Glad to entertain you!