what a surprise!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think this has clearly pointed out that any media (and I think this was done mostly for the media: after CNN debunked this again, the CNN reporter asked a question about it in the damn WH press room!) and candidates that give this nonsense any more leg belongs clearly in crazy conspiracy theory wingnut land.

Every single person who brings this up, from this point onwards, goes straight to the crazy waste bin.

This issue was addressed and overwhelmingly proven false in the 2008 campaign. The continuing lies and clown show enabled by the media do distract from our problems, and makes us an embarassment on the world stage.

i disagree with the entire paradigm of a "main stream media". it's a mythical creation of the right for any outlet that fact checks before it publishes or broadcasts.

buying into the idea that the media is something more than thousands of voices competing for attention and has some organizing principal beyond journalistic ethics empowers a really bad piece of propaganda. it's an idea that's as much a creature of the conspiracy mindset as the birther movement itself.

it would be a problem if donald trump didn't get media attention for his deliberate attention grabbing incendiary speech. the right would have a valid point if it weren't covered as news by all media outlets. the fact he gets covered is proof of how wrong the right is about the alleged bias they see everywhere.

and today is no different than any one of the last thousands days. the birther movement had no factual basis three years ago. it was always a wild conspiracy theory that ignored facts and was only believed by gullible dupes.