The Wood

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I have no idea why there is all the hate for uncle Mo. I guess it's easy to come out and say stuff after the race is done and the horse laid an egg. But if you really didn't like him (for whatever reason), maybe some people should have took the time and figured out a way to cash out on what could have been a dream opportunity to make some cash. After all, you don't find to many vulnerable 1/9 shots around.
But I guess they would rather wait and hope the horse bombed and then just make tons of stupid coments instead.

I agree about the odd abundance of hate for this horse. Fine if people have other opinions, though I didn't see any " I am betting against Uncle Mo with such and such horse and here's why " posts, but more a lot of post race hate/redboards. Uncle Mo was a monsterous talent last year. He wasn't lucky, or dressed up, but just a flat out brilliant racehorse. Maybe he isn't anymore....but I don't see how that's a good thing. We need as many truly good horses as we can get.

Anyone that didn't see that Uncle Mo was the real deal last year has no idea how to evaluate a racehorse. The game is worse, not better, if he is no longer that kind of talent.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree about the odd abundance of hate for this horse. Fine if people have other opinions, though I didn't see any " I am betting against Uncle Mo with such and such horse and here's why " posts, but more a lot of post race hate/redboards. Uncle Mo was a monsterous talent last year. He wasn't lucky, or dressed up, but just a flat out brilliant racehorse. Maybe he isn't anymore....but I don't see how that's a good thing. We need as many truly good horses as we can get.

Anyone that didn't see that Uncle Mo was the real deal last year has no idea how to evaluate a racehorse. The game is worse, not better, if he is no longer that kind of talent.

While I agree, I think it's wayyy premature to say he's dropped off.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree about the odd abundance of hate for this horse. Fine if people have other opinions, though I didn't see any " I am betting against Uncle Mo with such and such horse and here's why " posts, but more a lot of post race hate/redboards. Uncle Mo was a monsterous talent last year. He wasn't lucky, or dressed up, but just a flat out brilliant racehorse. Maybe he isn't anymore....but I don't see how that's a good thing. We need as many truly good horses as we can get.

Anyone that didn't see that Uncle Mo was the real deal last year has no idea how to evaluate a racehorse. The game is worse, not better, if he is no longer that kind of talent.

You are confusing dislike for the connections with dislike for the horse.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

While I agree, I think it's wayyy premature to say he's dropped off.

I hope he bounces back. He's a terrific horse. But I'm skeptical.

[Danzig]

not quite sure why anyone would 'dislike the connections'. its repole, not ieah for crying out loud.
at any rate, i think the only complaints i've seen about this horse are similar to what i've said, lack of racing, as well as too much emphasis on what was done last year-we know how much bearing that can have the next year....however, there's bound to be a reason for that lack of starts....as for the future, no one knows what that holds. i do know tho that this crop is still shaking itself out, with some good runners sadly already sidelined. mo has a shot at redemption on a track where he's already won. i also find it interesting that he's now being declared as a miler, when he's won past that distance already. maybe he's not a 10f-er. but right now, who is?? this is why the run them, to see. onward!

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree about the odd abundance of hate for this horse. Fine if people have other opinions, though I didn't see any " I am betting against Uncle Mo with such and such horse and here's why " posts, but more a lot of post race hate/redboards. Uncle Mo was a monsterous talent last year. He wasn't lucky, or dressed up, but just a flat out brilliant racehorse. Maybe he isn't anymore....but I don't see how that's a good thing. We need as many truly good horses as we can get.

Anyone that didn't see that Uncle Mo was the real deal last year has no idea how to evaluate a racehorse. The game is worse, not better, if he is no longer that kind of talent.

Excellent view expressed.

[johnny pinwheel]

its not hate ...i was skeptical all along......i always am.....its called gambling.....the bandwagon never makes money and rarely wins bets......people never,ever learn. when there are sure things....let me know.....being a fan is fine but its no way to conduct bets..... being a great two year old and converting that to a great 3 yo hardly ever happens anymore....there is a reason so many horses win the juve and then flop. you can't win like a champ and hide in the weeds forever , eventually you will be exposed, especially when the distances get longer....if that horse wins at 10 furlongs i'll eat my shorts.....in the meantime i'll read here about the next "can't lose" horse....lol

[philcski]

What's to hate about Repole? He's a self made millionaire off a great product, from Queens, and loves to be a racehorse owner- from the nickel claimer right on up to Uncle Mo. Remember, Uncle Mo was his first graded stakes winner, it's not like he's some monster owner. I mean seriously, the horses he ran against today were terrible. I personally wanted to see him win by a pole and have a real horse as the Derby favorite. With him potentially not being a 10F horse we could see another Mine That Bird type horse win, how exactly is that a good thing?

For full disclosure, I did not bet the race because I couldn't find a viable alternative. My buddy was looking for suggestions and I told him to bet against the showjumpers and it damn near paid off.

Honestly, does everybody just hate New Yorkers? I get that sense around KY sometimes.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by philcski

What's to hate about Repole? He's a self made millionaire off a great product, from Queens, and loves to be a racehorse owner- from the nickel claimer right on up to Uncle Mo. Remember, Uncle Mo was his first graded stakes winner, it's not like he's some monster owner. I mean seriously, the horses he ran against today were terrible. I personally wanted to see him win by a pole and have a real horse as the Derby favorite. With him potentially not being a 10F horse we could see another Mine That Bird type horse win, how exactly is that a good thing?

For full disclosure, I did not bet the race because I couldn't find a viable alternative. My buddy was looking for suggestions and I told him to bet against the showjumpers and it damn near paid off.

Honestly, does everybody just hate New Yorkers? I get that sense around KY sometimes.

Not to mention -- he is one of the guys out there really supporting retirement and getting people involved any way they can.

And you have to be a seriously cool person to make Pletcher crack that robotic armour...

I had woo-hooed in another thread which was for Toby's Corner, but I wish Mo put on the show he did in the BC Juvenile. I guess the bright side is we won't be reading articles about how he is going to bounce to the moon in the Derby.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by philcski

What's to hate about Repole? He's a self made millionaire off a great product, from Queens, and loves to be a racehorse owner- from the nickel claimer right on up to Uncle Mo. Remember, Uncle Mo was his first graded stakes winner, it's not like he's some monster owner. I mean seriously, the horses he ran against today were terrible. I personally wanted to see him win by a pole and have a real horse as the Derby favorite. With him potentially not being a 10F horse we could see another Mine That Bird type horse win, how exactly is that a good thing?

For full disclosure, I did not bet the race because I couldn't find a viable alternative. My buddy was looking for suggestions and I told him to bet against the showjumpers and it damn near paid off.

Honestly, does everybody just hate New Yorkers? I get that sense around KY sometimes.

Well said. I don't get why people don't like the guy.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pointman

Well said. I don't get why people don't like the guy.

Seriously?

Cause people are bitter and jealous trolls.

[Dahoss]

People really don't get why the connections aren't looked at positively? Really? I like the horse just fine, but his connections aren't easy to root for.

[MisterB]

Secretariat also finished third in the 1973 Wood before sweeping the Triple Crown. I wonder if people loved to see that too!!! It's not like Todd had a bad day, considering he won the Ill Derby. I just feel bad for Repole, who had 100 or so family at the track for the predicted win.

Now on to Andy, who preaches bad bets on 1-9 horses. He was a bad bet, and you singled him in the P4, that was a bad bet. You preach, I listen. Live and learn.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

People really don't get why the connections aren't looked at positively? Really? I like the horse just fine, but his connections aren't easy to root for.

No one said Repole is perfect, but if the biggest negative you can say about him is that he let Pletcher be a ***** with his horse, well, there are worse things.

[slotdirt]

So people don't like Repole because of Pletcher? That's a stretch. Repole is one of the better things to come along in the sport in quite awhile. People who don't like him are hating for hate's sake as far as I'm concerned.

[fpsoxfan]

Envy (also called invidiousness) is best defined as an emotion that "occurs when a person lacks another's (perceived) superior quality, achievement, or possession and either desires it or wishes that the other lacked it."[1]

Envy can also derive from a sense of low self-esteem that results from an upward social comparison threatening a person's self image: another person has something that the envier considers to be important to have. If the other person is perceived to be similar to the envier, the aroused envy will be particularly intense, because it signals to the envier that it just as well could have been he or she who had the desired object.[2][3]

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Secretariat also finished third in the 1973 Wood before sweeping the Triple Crown. I wonder if people loved to see that too!!! It's not like Todd had a bad day, considering he won the Ill Derby. I just feel bad for Repole, who had 100 or so family at the track for the predicted win.

Now on to Andy, who preaches bad bets on 1-9 horses. He was a bad bet, and you singled him in the P4, that was a bad bet. You preach, I listen. Live and learn.

How are those hindsight glasses working for you? I guess if Andy went 4 deep in the race and Uncle Mo romped by 12, he would have been a fool for going so deep in a race with a 1-9 shot in it.

The guy gave out a $125 horse the other day and you want to ridicule him about singling a horse who looked like the only way he could lose was if the jockey fell off. It's a little unfair, don't you think?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41767

[3kings]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Secretariat also finished third in the 1973 Wood before sweeping the Triple Crown. I wonder if people loved to see that too!!! It's not like Todd had a bad day, considering he won the Ill Derby. I just feel bad for Repole, who had 100 or so family at the track for the predicted win.

Now on to Andy, who preaches bad bets on 1-9 horses. He was a bad bet, and you singled him in the P4, that was a bad bet. You preach, I listen. Live and learn.

I hope this is just the 3:48 AM talking because this is ignorant. The guy gave out a $120. horse earlier in the day and if you boxed his horses in that race it was a $3000. tri. Yet you get on him for missing on a horse that looked far superior on paper. I'm sorry someone held a gun to your head and made you bet what he said. Many on here appreciate Andy, Doug, Nick T, and Steve for giving their insight and it has helped us become better handicappers. Don't be such an @hole, if you aren't willing to lose on some one else's opinion, don't use it.

[dino]

It's easy to hate Uncle Mo because of his arrogant trainer and owner. Most of the same people hate the Pat's, Yankee's, Celt's and Lakers.

[Gin talking]

Nothing against Repole putting money in the business and supporting racing is great. Do not quote me but I think he made comments about running horses more and showing off uncle mo, (correct me if I am wrong). Then he runs him twice before the derby, and you know damn well if Mo had swept the triple crown he would have been sent to the shed right away. As for Pletcher maybe he had no choice but to run him in the races he did, we all know Repole wanted the Wood all along, but could an extra race helped?