Wait On That Abortion

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Exactly. Not only that, you'd be surprised how many people who are "pro-life" have no problem with an abortion for someone who was raped or incest...yet if it is murder, it is murder in that case as well.

That shows the degree emotion is involved in this topic. As I've said, I cannot supporting forcing women to have a child by legislation but I'm still very uneasy with the number of abortions in this country...I didn't take the time to do the math but easily over 40 million since "Roe"...that's a staggering total!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

That shows the degree emotion is involved in this topic. As I've said, I cannot supporting forcing women to have a child by legislation but I'm still very uneasy with the number of abortions in this country...I didn't take the time to do the math but easily over 40 million since "Roe"...that's a staggering total!

It would be nice if some in our government wouldn't take away programs teaching sex education & birth control classes, and organizations that prevent pregnancy like Planned Parenthood.

[Cannon Shell]

This thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only should abortion be legal, it should be practiced more often.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

It would be nice if some in our government wouldn't take away programs teaching sex education & birth control classes, and organizations that prevent pregnancy like Planned Parenthood.

According to Republican rants, Planned Parenthood is nothing but abortion clinics, this is obviously not the case but folks accept that nonsense as fact. I admit that it disturbs me that the most vocal critics of a woman's right to make her own decision are opposed to education in birth control and likewise offer few if any alternatives.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I admit that it disturbs me that the most vocal critics of a woman's right to make her own decision are opposed to education in birth control and likewise offer few if any alternatives.

Uh, how about self-control and preparation? They sell condoms at every pharmacy and convenience store these days. You can be good to go with a three minute delay and about $1 in cost.

Here's an answer until we get a full reversal of the lunacy of the "Roe v. Wade" decision: make the price of abortion high, around a half-million dollars for instance, with no taxpayer involvement. If you screw up, you can get a loan and eventually pay it off like a mortgage or a college education - both of which you'll probably never see. But it's amazing what responsibility emerges in an individual when there is a strong financial reason for it. "Unlimited abortions for free" under Obamacare is the exact opposite of the theoretical plan proposed above.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by joeydb

. "Unlimited abortions for free" under Obamacare .

I cant possibly believe that this statement is true.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I cant possibly believe that this statement is true.

Well, I don't know any better than you do what form ObamaCare will ultimately take if not repealed. But there are articles stating that it could happen.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index....ding-has-begun

Even if there are no abortion-specific restrictions, I concede that there might be a lifetime cap on medical expenditure per patient in general, and that the abortions would be limited alongside other medical procedures in that way.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Well, I don't know any better than you do what form ObamaCare will ultimately take if not repealed. But there are articles stating that it could happen.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index....ding-has-begun

Even if there are no abortion-specific restrictions, I concede that there might be a lifetime cap on medical expenditure per patient in general, and that the abortions would be limited alongside other medical procedures in that way.

abortion should only be considered a health care problem if the woman was raped, under 18 or could die from complications from pregnancy.

If a woman gets pregnant and CHOOSES abortion, it should not be considered a health care problem, and she should pay big bucks out of her own pocket.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Well, I don't know any better than you do what form ObamaCare will ultimately take if not repealed..

Complete nonsense. Try reading it. It's already law. It's been law for a year. It's not speculation. There is no silly guessing "what form it could take" - the form is already law and is currently in effect.

There is no need to lie and "speculate" about the PPACA. It is concrete and done. You could read the actual law on the internet today, and note that it is specific within the law, in addition to the provisions of the Hyde Amendment, that no federal funds have been, or will be, used for abortion, either within the PPACA or without (Planned Parenthood for example).

Geeshus cripes, the facts drive some crazy. The far right wing fear machine is still attacking some imaginary, made-up enemy. They look beyond absurd.

You want "death panels"? Look at Arizona, where Gov. Jan Brewer removed state funding for transplants for those on state medical care, and two people have already died.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Uh, how about self-control and preparation? They sell condoms at every pharmacy and convenience store these days. You can be good to go with a three minute delay and about $1 in cost..

And that comment is the extent of your legally permitted involvement in other people's health and sex lives.