French jets protecting Libyan rebels

[Danzig]

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

the prevailing theory is that we're saving his people from him! Rumors of WMDs used against his own people are starting to hit the airwaves.....and he's nutty enuf to go up in a ball of flames at the end anyway!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

the prevailing theory is that we're saving his people from him! Rumors of WMDs used against his own people are starting to hit the airwaves.....and he's nutty enuf to go up in a ball of flames at the end anyway!

I don't know why, but that sounds vaguely familiar...

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I don't know why, but that sounds vaguely familiar...

the Arab papers are saying it not Americans....smartass!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

the Arab papers are saying it not Americans....smartass!

my local paper suggests his droopy melting wax face and dangerous facial hair were about to be used against his people.

i admit i just phoned this one in.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

well, we have this crazy ruthless dictator who has repeatedly threatened to kill thousands (or more) of his own people and has unleashed his military on them, we have the power to neutralize his military's ability to carry out this genocide. What ultimately happens to him and what course his nation eventually takes is not our immediate concern.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

well, we have this crazy ruthless dictator who has repeatedly threatened to kill thousands (or more) of his own people and has unleashed his military on them, we have the power to neutralize his military's ability to carry out this genocide. What ultimately happens to him and what course his nation eventually takes is not our immediate concern.

i don't know why but this sounds vaguely familiar.

[jms62]

Obama needs to focus on the Genocide going on in his own country. Genocide against the middle class.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

Obama needs to focus on the Genocide going on in his own country. Genocide against the taxpayer.

Fixed that for you.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Fixed that for you.

No need to fix it joey but if that is what you gather from the sound bite on the conservative radio station you listen to for 5 minutes a day than it's cool.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...l-since-truman

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

No need to fix it joey but if that is what you gather from the sound bite on the conservative radio station you listen to for 5 minutes a day than it's cool.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...l-since-truman

Keep in mind that state and local taxes have exploded, so the overall burden on the taxpayer has actually gone up.

In addition, a statistic often cited is that 47% of individuals filling out a tax return do not pay a net tax, (i.e. people getting a "refund" that exceeds their withheld tax over the year). Therefore, a distinction needs to be made between taxpayers and tax return filers.

Those of us in the other 53%, getting taxed to death, are the suckers.

Also throw in the record deficits ($1.6 trillion per year) and debt ($14 trillion and counting), both of which must ultimately be paid by those same suckers, and you get an idea of how the taxpayer is the new permanent underclass and how the recipient class is the new nobility. We, the people who pay the bills, work for them. The government, the social program recipients (welfare, social security, SSI, etc) all get paid first, due to the withholding mechanism, and the "net" pay, ours, is the last to be paid. And according to every crying liberal, their confiscated share of our gross income is never enough and never will be.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

What? He was about to kill 50.k-100k people. Said he was gunna go house to house etc. If you don't see stopping that as being an important goal, then, o.k. No, they aren't slaughtering numbers like that in Bahrain, or Yemen. The reason we've struggled in both Iraq and Afghanistan is because the population didn't want us there. Look, from what we've seen, the Americans and the Euros actually hit some targets, and did some damage. That's a half miracle in itself. I say we gave them a chance. Tell ya what the smartest thing to do is. This Turk cockroach wants into the E.U. (real badly.) Need to get the Germans n' French to let him into the E.U. ( in return for Turkish troops coming in to force a ceasefire. ) We, and the Euros get out. Getting the French n' Germans to let the Turks join the E.U. will be difficult though.

The grandiose Gaddafi exaggerates and intimidates. He loves the spotlight and loves to play the villain.

He's a lightweight for a dictator. There isn't a solid plan to take him out of power. What we're doing is wasting money and making him and his associates money.

[somerfrost]

UN forces announced today that Libyan airforce and air defense systems have been totally destroyed/ rendered useless and emphasis is now shifting to ground forces.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

UN forces announced today that Libyan airforce and air defense systems have been totally destroyed/ rendered useless and emphasis is now shifting to ground forces.

Great.. Barrack will borrow a page from GWB and declare victory!!! And 10 years later and countless hundreds of BILLIONS we will still be there.