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Old 03-21-2011, 05:48 PM
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are you saying this is just like Bosnia

I never heard this referred to as Genocide
I thought he was killing his own people not some other race

Who are these people? The Muslim Brotherhood?
I am saying that NATO forces successfully maintained a no fly zone with very few losses that resulted in a fairly positive end.

The idea that there must be genocide to qualify for international support is interesting.
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:52 PM
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I am saying that NATO forces successfully maintained a no fly zone with very few losses that resulted in a fairly positive end.

The idea that there must be genocide to qualify for international support is interesting.
What does qualify for international support? I don't think the US needs to be in the business of nation building and there is really no justification for US intervention.
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:58 PM
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What does qualify for international support? I don't think the US needs to be in the business of nation building and there is really no justification for US intervention.
So we should let England and France have all the fun?

This is a golden opportunity to get rid of a despot which the leaders of the free world have decided to take. I guess I could use the Riot tactic on you...

You obviously support Gaddafi. How can you support a brutal, oppressive dictator that not only sponsors terrorism but kills his own people?
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:45 PM
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I am saying that NATO forces successfully maintained a no fly zone with very few losses that resulted in a fairly positive end.

The idea that there must be genocide to qualify for international support is interesting.
I'm shocked that this many Americans (knowing we could easily help stop it) couldn't care less if 50k-100k people got slaughtered by their own armed forces. Would of been nice if someone else had done it. They wouldn't. It was up to the major democracies of the World to step up (together.) It's a fairly flat country, and you don't have to beg other countries to use their air space. Because we wouldn't stop guys on horseback from killing people in the Sudan? That's a reason not to do this?
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:42 PM
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so, a couple pages past my question, and no good answer. i expected as much. i haven't seen a compelling reason yet for us engaging over there. i haven't seen much of a reason at all, let alone compelling. evil dictator and his civvies hurting. hell, that could encompass plenty of dictators and plenty of countries. so, why libya? because most of nato said so? because it takes all those countries' minds off their woes? because libya is a bad guy, with a bad leader? again, that description fits a variety of countries. i think it's ridiculous; i think once again we're letting the euros get us into something we don't have business in. it makes no sense. i think the powers that be figured no one would bitch about this particular guy and his country-unlike saudi arabia, bahrain, yemen, etc. an 'easy' target. to what end?

and so...our foreign policy contines to suck.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:38 PM
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so, a couple pages past my question, and no good answer. i expected as much. i haven't seen a compelling reason yet for us engaging over there. i haven't seen much of a reason at all, let alone compelling. evil dictator and his civvies hurting. hell, that could encompass plenty of dictators and plenty of countries. so, why libya? because most of nato said so? because it takes all those countries' minds off their woes? because libya is a bad guy, with a bad leader? again, that description fits a variety of countries. i think it's ridiculous; i think once again we're letting the euros get us into something we don't have business in. it makes no sense. i think the powers that be figured no one would bitch about this particular guy and his country-unlike saudi arabia, bahrain, yemen, etc. an 'easy' target. to what end?

and so...our foreign policy contines to suck.
You are right. Since when do "humanitarian" efforts start off with a missile attack?
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FUBAR!!!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eda-links.html
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