Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Listen to the lovely Lena Taylor and see what professional representatives that are representing your views

http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2011...interview.html

No thanks. I've seen plenty of the "professional representatives" in Wisconsin, like the lying, ethics-challenged, lawbreaking Governor Walker

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

No thanks. I've seen plenty of the "professional representatives" in Wisconsin, like the lying, ethics-challenged, lawbreaking Governor Walker

You never cease to amaze me you bash walker and the republicans but won't listen to the idiots that you are supporting.


Can you explain to me how as a citizen of the US you are ok with the action taken by the senate democrats? I am not asking whether you agree or disagree with the bill. I am asking if you believe that their actions are in accordance to the civic duty that they swore to uphold

[Riot]

Can you explain to me how as a citizen of the US you are ok with the action taken by the senate democrats?

The Governor tried to sneak through alot of nasty stuff in his bill. I'm darn glad the Democrats held up the rushed-through passage of this bill, because much of the content has turned out to have zero to do with solving any budget deficit. Yes, I think that is indeed their civic duty, to protect their constituency.

How can you support Walker? His lying, his deceit? Tell me how taking away 8% of income from low and middle class public workers is a good thing for the overburdened, overtaxed citizens of Wisconsin? While companies get more and more tax breaks?

As I said, your Governor has promised that 250,000 jobs will magically appear out of nowhere in Wisconsin in the next couple of years. If he can do that, I'll be happy to vote for him for President.

[wiphan]

[quote=Riot;758132]The Governor tried to sneak through alot of nasty stuff in his bill. I'm darn glad the Democrats held up the rushed-through passage of this bill, because much of the content has turned out to have zero to do with solving any budget deficit. Yes, I think that is indeed their civic duty, to protect their constituency.

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This to me says a lot about you and your beliefs. Whether you agree or disagree with the bill acting the way the democrats have done is just down right wrong. If the republicans give in it sets a really bad precedent. It is like when I tell my 3 yr old she can't have candy and then she throws a temper tantrum and I give in. Do you think she will do it again? We can not have law makers acting in this behavior any time a bill is presented that they do not agree with. That is what elections are for. Time to get back to work and do your job.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

This to me says a lot about you and your beliefs.

Can you talk about politics objectively?

Whether you agree or disagree with the bill acting the way the democrats have done is just down right wrong.

I say what they did was right. They used a legal parlimentary procedure to block the ramming through of a "deficit repair" bill (even though the Wisconsin deficit isn't deep enough to formally trigger the need for a "repair bill") that contains far, far more than just deficit corrections.

Guess we'll just disagree.

We can not have law makers acting in this behavior any time a bill is presented that they do not agree with. That is what elections are for.

I missed your daily anger and self-rightous indignation over the past two years of Senate Republicans filibustering just about everything

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Can you talk about politics objectively?



I say what they did was right. They used a legal parlimentary procedure to block the ramming through of a "deficit repair" bill (even though the Wisconsin deficit isn't deep enough to formally trigger the need for a "repair bill") that contains far, far more than just deficit corrections.

Guess we'll just disagree.



I missed your daily anger and self-rightous indignation over the past two years of Senate Republicans filibustering just about everything

did you seriously just ask that question??? riot, you have unabashedly and unashamedly admitted your love for the democratic party; that you think they're the cure for what ails us as a country...you back their play on any and every issue that comes down the pike --and then you post that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

did you seriously just ask that question???

Absolutely. When Wiphan and I are talking about what the Dems are doing in Wisconsin, and whether we agree or not with their actions, what place does Wiphan interjecting the personally prejudiced and assumptive, "This to me says a lot about you and your beliefs" have in that?

That just proves Wiphan has preconceived prejudices that run deep. Wiphan doesn't have frigging clue what supporting the Democrats "means about me and my beliefs". Sadly. What it means is only that I support the Democratic action, for the reason I gave. Nothing more or less.

One is talking about the other poster. One is talking about the subject.

Then you go on with the following, which has nothing at all to do with the above, really, and thus is confusing to me why you said it:

riot, you have unabashedly and unashamedly admitted your love for the democratic party; that you think they're the cure for what ails us as a country...you back their play on any and every issue that comes down the pike --and then you post that.

At least you could be accurate. No, I have not posted my "love" of the Democratic party, I have posted my complete and utter disappointment with the failures of the Republican party. Not the same thing. There is alot I am not comfortable with within the most progressive wing of the Democratic part (and I've said as much here, which appears to be completely ignored) - why I never voted for a Democrat on a national level before Obama.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Can you talk about politics objectively?



I say what they did was right. They used a legal parlimentary procedure to block the ramming through of a "deficit repair" bill (even though the Wisconsin deficit isn't deep enough to formally trigger the need for a "repair bill") that contains far, far more than just deficit corrections.

Guess we'll just disagree.



I missed your daily anger and self-rightous indignation over the past two years of Senate Republicans filibustering just about everything

So you consider filibustering the same as the actions the Senate Democrats in WI have taken? Fleeing the state, not showing up for your job, and not representing your constituents is the same as a filibuster? So every time a party disagrees with another they should just flee to Canada or in this case IL until the other party gives in? They should hold the state or the country hostage and not allow business to be conducted until they get their way. I do not see how that is considered democracy, but what do I know I didn't consult twitter or wikipedia

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

So you consider filibustering the same as the actions the Senate Democrats in WI have taken?

I consider both legal parlimentary procedures that were chosen and used.

I didn't like when the GOP did it in the Senate, and you don't like it when the state senate Democrats are doing it here.

Fleeing the state, not showing up for your job, and not representing your constituents is the same as a filibuster?

They most certainly didn't "flee their job", or "not represent their constituents", they are talking to constituents and staff daily, they are quite available to the other Senate members and the Governor (who still refuses to take their calls)

BTW, who is not "doing their job", when the public overwhelmingly is telling Walker they don't want union-busting, the Dems are trying to negotiate, a couple of the Senate Republicans are trying to negotiate, and Walker is standing still refusing to meet, refusing to take phone calls, saying he refuses to change his stance, and he is even caught on that phone call, saying he lied to the Democrats, saying he'd trick them into thinking he'd negotiate to get them back but then wouldn't?

I do not see how that is considered democracy, but what do I know I didn't consult twitter or wikipedia

Okay, you have to keep it personal. You can't talk about the politics objectively. So, yes, poor little unknowledgable victim you, poor little unknowledgable victim you. Is that what you want to hear? What does that have to do with anything? You don't consider what the Dems are doing democracy, stand by your opinion. Don't try to pawn it off on me being mean to poor little victim you.