What is your impression of this 3-yr-old Crop?

Travis Stone · #1 03-04-2011, 02:58 PM

I'll let you know when they - ya know - start racing against each other. We're in March and the top horse hasn't even started yet. I remember getting jazzed about the top horse having already run twice... times have changed in no time at all.

freddymo · #2 03-04-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'll let you know when they - ya know - start racing against each other. We're in March and the top horse hasn't even started yet. I remember getting jazzed about the top horse having already run twice... times have changed in no time at all.

You mean you cant tell after 45 days of racing???lol

somerfrost · #3 03-04-2011, 03:05 PM

Hard to say yet but not overly fond of the breeding of early contenders. Uncle Mo, for example, may yet be any kind but breeding a concern!

hockey2315 · #4 03-04-2011, 03:07 PM

They're all so cute!

Indian Charlie · #5 03-04-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Hard to say yet but not overly fond of the breeding of early contenders. Uncle Mo, for example, may yet be any kind but breeding a concern!

That's retarded.

My impression is that this crop has more potential than most of recent years.

I'd have to go back maybe 10-12 years to find this many horses with this much promise.

Whether that promise will be fulfilled is the question.

somerfrost · #6 03-04-2011, 03:25 PM

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That's retarded.

My impression is that this crop has more potential than most of recent years.

I'd have to go back maybe 10-12 years to find this many horses with this much promise.

Whether that promise will be fulfilled is the question.

Interesting that some folks here have such a high opinion of themselves that they cannot disagree in a civil manner.

Dahoss · #7 03-04-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's retarded.

My impression is that this crop has more potential than most of recent years.

I'd have to go back maybe 10-12 years to find this many horses with this much promise.

Whether that promise will be fulfilled is the question.

This is retarded.

Indian Charlie · #8 03-04-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Interesting that some folks here have such a high opinion of themselves that they cannot disagree in a civil manner.

I was kidding with you. While I disagree that his pedigree is suspect, I wasn't trying to be uncivil. Sorry.

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This is retarded.

Really? How so? Almost every single crop in the last 10 years has sucked, and you know it.

randallscott35 · #9 03-04-2011, 04:46 PM

Put Data Link in the Wood. Give him a shot.

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 03-04-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Really? How so? Almost every single crop in the last 10 years has sucked, and you know it.

Now, that's kind of retarded.

A lot of times they only appeared to suck because the older male division was actually strong and deep.

Curlin, Street Sense, and Hard Spun wouldn't have looked very good to a lot of people if Ghostzapper, Mineshaft, Congaree, Medgalia D' Oro, Pleasantly Perfect, Roses In May etc are all going strong in the handicap division.

Indian Charlie · #11 03-04-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Now, that's kind of retarded.

A lot of times they only appeared to suck because the older male division was actually strong and deep.

Curlin, Street Sense, and Hard Spun wouldn't have looked very good to a lot of people if Ghostzapper, Mineshaft, Congaree, Medgalia D' Oro, Pleasantly Perfect, Roses In May etc are all going strong in the handicap division.

I think you are making my point for me.

The 2007 3yos were insanely overrated, in large part to what you say above.

As to those really good older horses you mention, those were all 3yos from nearly 10 years ago.

Dahoss · #12 03-04-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Really? How so? Almost every single crop in the last 10 years has sucked, and you know it.

Maybe I'm just in a piss poor mood today, but I'm not as excited as many of you seem to be. Especially considering no one seems to want to race each other. I just don't get as excited about flashy maiden wins like I used to.

Yeah, most of the crops recently have sucked but you could have picked 10 exciting maiden or allowance winners most of those years in March and speculated about what they could have been. They never end up being anything.

freddymo · #13 03-04-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Maybe I'm just in a piss poor mood today, but I'm not as excited as many of you seem to be. Especially considering no one seems to want to race each other. I just don't get as excited about flashy maiden wins like I used to.

Yeah, most of the crops recently have sucked but you could have picked 10 exciting maiden or allowance winners most of those years in March and speculated about what they could have been. They never end up being anything.

Save Curlin

The Indomitable DrugS · #14 03-04-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yeah, most of the crops recently have sucked but you could have picked 10 exciting maiden or allowance winners most of those years in March and speculated about what they could have been. They never end up being anything.

Not even close imo.

Maybe 3 or 4 tops - and they will almost always have sprint pedigrees like Eightyfiveinafifty - even Big Brown had a sprint pedigree.

Since Curlin's big Jan maiden win - how many promising 3yo's with two races or less and distance friendly pedigrees have we seen?

NTamm1215 · #15 03-04-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's retarded.

My impression is that this crop has more potential than most of recent years.

I'd have to go back maybe 10-12 years to find this many horses with this much promise.

Whether that promise will be fulfilled is the question.

Would you feel this way if the de facto division leader was not by Indian Charlie?

I think there's not much depth at all in this crop. They don't run enough and the Derby trail in general is getting more and more difficult to get excited about.

hockey2315 · #16 03-04-2011, 03:43 PM

It might be the strongest crop since. . . 2007.

The Indomitable DrugS · #17 03-04-2011, 03:56 PM

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It might be the strongest crop since. . . 2007.

At this point in the year - Curlin only had a maiden race under him. Hard Spun had just run 3rd or 4th to Tuffelsburger in the Southwest. Street Sense still hadn't raced.

Any Given Saturday was workmanlike in a narrow win over a Michigan bred lonshot in the Sam Davis last out. Nobiz Like Shobiz was just a weak 3rd to Scat Daddy and Stormello in the Fountain of Youth.

This crop won't look good until horses actually start to race.

hockey2315 · #18 03-04-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This crop won't look good until horses actually start to race.

That's the problem. . .

Indian Charlie · #19 03-04-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

It might be the strongest crop since. . . 2007.

That's for sure.

However, this crop could very well be much stronger than 2007, which I'm sure is not what you meant.

The Indomitable DrugS · #20 03-04-2011, 03:49 PM

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Would you feel this way if the de facto division leader was not by Indian Charlie?

Him? I'm sure he would.

There's about ten highly promising 3yo males who've run two races or less - and most of them have distance friendly pedigrees and big name trainers.

There's also a laughably pathetic division of older males - it's a complete joke that a bunch of 2nd time starters are almost as fast as the top older males in the country.

If you like ultra promising horses who've run twice or less - this is a glory year. Uncle Mo is ultra seasoned - he's actually run three whole races.