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Bottom line - the American breed of thoroughbred is substantially weaker in comparison to horses reared in other countries. An overwhelming focus on speed and a wholehearted overbreeding has led to what we have today. A ton of horses who race less frequently, bleed, etc.
Can horses come back in a few days and run again and win? Then again? And again? Absolutely. Happens in...not Chile...but the UK...and more than you think. I can think of two recent examples of horses who did it. FINAL DRIVE - UK-based horse who won three times over 15 days in November, and then after a third beaten a nose, came back and won three more times in 18 days in December. http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...l+drive&type=H SILAAH - also based in the UK - had two seconds and two wins in 22 days before shipping to Dubai and grabbing second in a $110,000 race. http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...=silaah&type=H Click the links and then their names to bring up lifetime free PPs. To me, the greatest indictment about the pervasiveness of drugs in American racing is not best shown by what happens in the US, but rather, by what happens everywhere else. American racing is the pariah. WE are the crazy ones, at least in the minds of the rest of the racing world. Can horses be raced with such frequency? The answer is yes... Can it be done in the US? Not so much...
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However, I think what you are saying is ridiculous. Show me anywhere in the world that has heavily raced world class racehorses. The reason some horses are raced heavily is because they can be, and need to be (from the owners perspective).
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03-01-2011, 01:33 AM
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03-01-2011, 06:13 AM
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those non- US horses aren't required to race gate to wire. They all just fall out of the gate plod along and then sprint for the wire
really only running an 1/8th of a mile at most so get off it already
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03-01-2011, 06:26 AM
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They race as often on dirt in South America as they do here.
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50 times?
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03-01-2011, 08:11 AM
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Although she was a NZ horse, most of her racing was in Australia.
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03-01-2011, 10:22 AM
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While yeah, that's pretty nice, don't forget, Zenyatta ran 20 times. Not a huge difference.
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03-01-2011, 07:57 AM
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03-01-2011, 08:28 AM
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Pat your post is ridiculously unfair.
It's a 90 day meet that billionaire shieks and their billionaire sheik friends spend countless billions to entertain themselves with. It's a carnival it isnt a business. It is run solely for entertainment purposes only. The horses and there future wellfare is completely ignored as long as the carnival goes on. If millions and millions of dollars of stock is destroyed(ruined) all they do is buy more.They are toys, if they break you just go to the store and get new cooler ones. Then you have the fact that this horses are only going to race during this carnival and will be laid off for the next 6-9 months at no worry or care(money) to their connections. Win lose or draw these horses sole role in life is to race as much as they can in 90 days, yet you seem to think this makes what they do incredibly different than US stock.
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03-01-2011, 09:48 AM
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And further, maybe if you got off the soapbox and READ what I said, you would realize it has nothing to do with sheikhs or their horses. The two horses in question in my post are owned, and primarily raced, by UK-based connections. Silaah is owned by Mrs. Jackie Love and David Nicholls (who also trains). While Final Drive is owned by Par 4 Racing and trained by John Ryan. Do me a favor and block me from your feed, it will save you the trouble of being wrong again.
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03-01-2011, 10:53 AM
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Wrong about what the fact that 90% of the stock is campaigned by middle eastern concerns that sole purpose is entertainment and have zero financial interest in the outcome of their decisions? Wrong about what, the fact that all of the stock that is campaign is the the result of the systematic removal of the very best animals aquired from both hemispheres? Wrong about the fact that the carnival is effective a freak show that is devoid of racing realty? Pat if anyone is on a soap box its you trying to pitch this drug free BS on ATR and here. You point to this farce of a meet and a few select horses to attempt to validate your point that horses in the USA are a product of race day medication and poor breeding decisions(I guess when Shek Mo was spending 50 mil at Keeneland he was only buying the correctly bred US horses?). The horses in Dubai can race with whatever friggin drugs the owner of the country cares to give them. You think the testing is real and on the up and up why because the buildings that continue to arise are tall or because Sheik Mo says so? This is the same family that actively supports 10 year old boys being kidnapped and raped so they can have fun at the Camel races? Lo and Behold the rulers of the paradise known as Dubai are free from fixing drugs results yet freely import slaves to build there billion dollar racetracks and 2 billion dollar golf courses. Have a heart Pat we get they butter your bread but certainly you cant be so nieve as to think the Sheiks horses race pure because he and his have such a pristine conscience. BTW that is interesting name on that Silaah horse, perhaps he was named with Dubai in mind. Or perhaps Silaah is owned by British nationals that effectively live in Dubai. On a side note just because I completely disgree with your subjective "line my pockets" opinion doesnt mean its personal.
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