Beyer in Chilie

[freddymo]

Pat your post is ridiculously unfair.

It's a 90 day meet that billionaire shieks and their billionaire sheik friends spend countless billions to entertain themselves with. It's a carnival it isnt a business. It is run solely for entertainment purposes only. The horses and there future wellfare is completely ignored as long as the carnival goes on. If millions and millions of dollars of stock is destroyed(ruined) all they do is buy more.They are toys, if they break you just go to the store and get new cooler ones. Then you have the fact that this horses are only going to race during this carnival and will be laid off for the next 6-9 months at no worry or care(money) to their connections. Win lose or draw these horses sole role in life is to race as much as they can in 90 days, yet you seem to think this makes what they do incredibly different than US stock.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Pat your post is ridiculously unfair.

It's a 90 day meet that billionaire shieks and their billionaire sheik friends spend countless billions to entertain themselves with. It's a carnival it isnt a business. It is run solely for entertainment purposes only. The horses and there future wellfare is completely ignored as long as the carnival goes on. If millions and millions of dollars of stock is destroyed(ruined) all they do is buy more.They are toys, if they break you just go to the store and get new cooler ones. Then you have the fact that this horses are only going to race during this carnival and will be laid off for the next 6-9 months at no worry or care(money) to their connections. Win lose or draw these horses sole role in life is to race as much as they can in 90 days, yet you seem to think this makes what they do incredibly different than US stock.

Hey Freddy - next time, quote me, will make it easier for others to compare your drivel to my actual post.

And further, maybe if you got off the soapbox and READ what I said, you would realize it has nothing to do with sheikhs or their horses. The two horses in question in my post are owned, and primarily raced, by UK-based connections.

Silaah is owned by Mrs. Jackie Love and David Nicholls (who also trains). While Final Drive is owned by Par 4 Racing and trained by John Ryan.

Do me a favor and block me from your feed, it will save you the trouble of being wrong again.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Hey Freddy - next time, quote me, will make it easier for others to compare your drivel to my actual post.

And further, maybe if you got off the soapbox and READ what I said, you would realize it has nothing to do with sheikhs or their horses. The two horses in question in my post are owned, and primarily raced, by UK-based connections.

Silaah is owned by Mrs. Jackie Love and David Nicholls (who also trains). While Final Drive is owned by Par 4 Racing and trained by John Ryan.

Do me a favor and block me from your feed, it will save you the trouble of being wrong again.

Wrong about what the fact that 90% of the stock is campaigned by middle eastern concerns that sole purpose is entertainment and have zero financial interest in the outcome of their decisions? Wrong about what, the fact that all of the stock that is campaign is the the result of the systematic removal of the very best animals aquired from both hemispheres? Wrong about the fact that the carnival is effective a freak show that is devoid of racing realty?
Pat if anyone is on a soap box its you trying to pitch this drug free BS on ATR and here. You point to this farce of a meet and a few select horses to attempt to validate your point that horses in the USA are a product of race day medication and poor breeding decisions(I guess when Shek Mo was spending 50 mil at Keeneland he was only buying the correctly bred US horses?). The horses in Dubai can race with whatever friggin drugs the owner of the country cares to give them. You think the testing is real and on the up and up why because the buildings that continue to arise are tall or because Sheik Mo says so? This is the same family that actively supports 10 year old boys being kidnapped and raped so they can have fun at the Camel races? Lo and Behold the rulers of the paradise known as Dubai are free from fixing drugs results yet freely import slaves to build there billion dollar racetracks and 2 billion dollar golf courses. Have a heart Pat we get they butter your bread but certainly you cant be so nieve as to think the Sheiks horses race pure because he and his have such a pristine conscience.

BTW that is interesting name on that Silaah horse, perhaps he was named with Dubai in mind. Or perhaps Silaah is owned by British nationals that effectively live in Dubai.

On a side note just because I completely disgree with your subjective "line my pockets" opinion doesnt mean its personal.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Wrong about what the fact that 90% of the stock is campaigned by middle eastern concerns that sole purpose is entertainment and have zero financial interest in the outcome of their decisions? Wrong about what, the fact that all of the stock that is campaign is the the result of the systematic removal of the very best animals aquired from both hemispheres? Wrong about the fact that the carnival is effective a freak show that is devoid of racing realty?
Pat if anyone is on a soap box its you trying to pitch this drug free BS on ATR and here. You point to this farce of a meet and a few select horses to attempt to validate your point that horses in the USA are a product of race day medication and poor breeding decisions(I guess when Shek Mo was spending 50 mil at Keeneland he was only buying the correctly bred US horses?). The horses in Dubai can race with whatever friggin drugs the owner of the country cares to give them. You think the testing is real and on the up and up why because the buildings that continue to arise are tall or because Sheik Mo says so? This is the same family that actively supports 10 year old boys being kidnapped and raped so they can have fun at the Camel races? Lo and Behold the rulers of the paradise known as Dubai are free from fixing drugs results yet freely import slaves to build there billion dollar racetracks and 2 billion dollar golf courses. Have a heart Pat we get they butter your bread but certainly you cant be so nieve as to think the Sheiks horses race pure because he and his have such a pristine conscience.

BTW that is interesting name on that Silaah horse, perhaps he was named with Dubai in mind. Or perhaps Silaah is owned by British nationals that effectively live in Dubai.

On a side note just because I completely disgree with your subjective "line my pockets" opinion doesnt mean its personal.

You're a gem Freddy, a real gem. Don't forget your meds next time. Feel free to sound like a lunatic on threads when I actually discuss Dubai racing. In the meantime, that sound you hear is ME ignoring YOU.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

You're a gem Freddy, a real gem. Don't forget your meds next time. Feel free to sound like a lunatic on threads when I actually discuss Dubai racing. In the meantime, that sound you hear is ME ignoring YOU.

Again Pat we get you are on the payroll. In all fairness half of friggin Ky. and County Kildare are as well. It isn't ok to compare two completely different worlds of racing without at least pointing out the immense differences between them. Beyer went ahead and told people why horses race 300 times in a career. He gave the readers presumed facts on costs to train and purse structure and allowed the readers to make their own decision if the reasons for a horses 300 race career was breeding, training or economic necessity. You come on ATR and DT and speak about the horrors of race day meds and poor breeding and point to Tam Lin or other such pets that cost billionaires 100k a year to keep in training in artificially created billion dollar training facilities to race slowly 90 days a year. Respectfully its not OK and comes off very poorly and highly subjective.

Give Dutrow 20 horses in Dubai with unlimited money, unlimited meds, on site water thread mills, hyperbaric STALLS, and zero concern for 9 months of the year and I promise you he will put on a real friggin show for your home boyz.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Again Pat we get you are on the payroll. In all fairness half of friggin Ky. and County Kildare are as well. It isn't ok to compare two completely different worlds of racing without at least pointing out the immense differences between them. Beyer went ahead and told people why horses race 300 times in a career. He gave the readers presumed facts on costs to train and purse structure and allowed the readers to make their own decision if the reasons for a horses 300 race career was breeding, training or economic necessity. You come on ATR and DT and speak about the horrors of race day meds and poor breeding and point to Tam Lin or other such pets that cost billionaires 100k a year to keep in training in artificially created billion dollar training facilities to race slowly 90 days a year. Respectfully its not OK and comes off very poorly and highly subjective.

Give Dutrow 20 horses in Dubai with unlimited money, unlimited meds, on site water thread mills, hyperbaric STALLS, and zero concern for 9 months of the year and I promise you he will put on a real friggin show for your home boyz.

OOOOOOOOO

Originally Posted by freddymo

Again Pat we get you are on the payroll. In all fairness half of friggin Ky. and County Kildare are as well. It isn't ok to compare two completely different worlds of racing without at least pointing out the immense differences between them. Beyer went ahead and told people why horses race 300 times in a career. He gave the readers presumed facts on costs to train and purse structure and allowed the readers to make their own decision if the reasons for a horses 300 race career was breeding, training or economic necessity. You come on ATR and DT and speak about the horrors of race day meds and poor breeding and point to Tam Lin or other such pets that cost billionaires 100k a year to keep in training in artificially created billion dollar training facilities to race slowly 90 days a year. Respectfully its not OK and comes off very poorly and highly subjective.

Give Dutrow 20 horses in Dubai with unlimited money, unlimited meds, on site water thread mills, hyperbaric STALLS, and zero concern for 9 months of the year and I promise you he will put on a real friggin show for your home boyz.

Well said.

He loves de Kock.

Roll Tide.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Well said.

He loves de Kock.

Roll Tide.

de Kock would be successful anywhere.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Well said.

He loves de Kock.

Roll Tide.