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Old 03-01-2011, 01:33 AM
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I am a critic of American culture more than most.

However, I think what you are saying is ridiculous. Show me anywhere in the world that has heavily raced world class racehorses.

The reason some horses are raced heavily is because they can be, and need to be (from the owners perspective).
Australia is the most obvious place
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:13 AM
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those non- US horses aren't required to race gate to wire. They all just fall out of the gate plod along and then sprint for the wire
really only running an 1/8th of a mile at most
so get off it already
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:26 AM
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They race as often on dirt in South America as they do here.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:30 AM
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They race as often on dirt in South America as they do here.
well obviously we suck
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We're a lot faster and a lot more fragile.

You have to go all the way back to Invasor to find an elite horse who has come out of South America. I think Einstein was bred in South America - but didn't race there.
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:07 AM
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We're a lot faster and a lot more fragile. You have to go all the way back to Invasor to find an elite horse who has come out of South America. I think Einstein was bred in South America - but didn't race there.
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:59 AM
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We're a lot faster and a lot more fragile.

You have to go all the way back to Invasor to find an elite horse who has come out of South America. I think Einstein was bred in South America - but didn't race there.
Leroidesanimeux was also Brazilian bred I believe and did race there early in his career
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:21 AM
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Leroidesanimeux was also Brazilian bred I believe and did race there early in his career
Yep. But his championship year was one-year before Invasor's.

There have been a few pretty amazing superstar horses from South America in each decade going back quite a ways.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:05 AM
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Australia is the most obvious place
Really? Their grade 1 horses run 200 times?

50 times?
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50 times?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunline

Although she was a NZ horse, most of her racing was in Australia.
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:22 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunline

Although she was a NZ horse, most of her racing was in Australia.
25 times? 33 times?

While yeah, that's pretty nice, don't forget, Zenyatta ran 20 times.

Not a huge difference.
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48 vs 20 is a bit of a difference.
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48 vs 20 is a bit of a difference.
The lack of a general ability to read these days KILLS me.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:54 AM
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48 vs 20 is a bit of a difference.
Yeah, I did misread that. I was busy with work and misread it as her running 32 times.

Still, that is almost certainly not the normal type of career for a top caliber g1 horse down there.

One instance a trend does not make.
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Yeah, I did misread that. I was busy with work and misread it as her running 32 times.

Still, that is almost certainly not the normal type of career for a top caliber g1 horse down there.

One instance a trend does not make.
So You Think the best horse in Australia ran 5 times in 45 days last year - all in G1 races, and they werent egg and spoon G1s either. He only won 4 of them though, coming 3rd in the Melbourne Cup 4 days after sauntering to a G1 win over 10f..

plus Im sure the lads like Ed can point to more horses that have campaigns like this every year!!
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48 vs 20 is a bit of a difference.
Yeah it sure is and lest we forget (oh I always have to interject HK don't I?)...

Some G1 horses...

Cape of Good Hope... 41 starts
http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/O...=B243&search=1

Bullish Luck, 54 starts
http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/O...=C155&search=1

Scintillation, 45 starts
http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/O...=C228&search=1

Viva Pataca, 41 starts
http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...=G096&search=1

Good Ba Ba, 44 starts
http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...=E201&search=1

(For the record it's Chile and not Chilie but it does look kinda cute this way).
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(For the record it's Chile and not Chilie but it does look kinda cute this way).
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