Deron Williams to Nets

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think this is a bad trade for NJ

They traded a top pick in a weak draft, a protected pick, a fair PG and a pretty soft looking Favors for one of the 3 best PG's in the league.

Sure it could backfire if Williams opt's to sign somewhere else but they gave up less than NY did for a better player.

Plus NJ has a lot of cap space and still has draft picks. They have been peddling Harris for 2 years and never found taker and Favors looks like he is not going to be an impact player, maybe ever.

Bingo. They had to hook a huge fish to build around and they did.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Bingo. They had to hook a huge fish to build around and they did.

It is Billy King so I expect them to trade Lopez for Darko any minute now

[golfer]

Billy King's track record in Philadelphia gives me little reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. If Derrick Favors turns out to be as big a stiff as he appears right now, this is a good trade. If he doesn't, not so good. A great point guard makes everyone around him better, Devin Harris did not.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by golfer

Billy King's track record in Philadelphia gives me little reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. If Derrick Favors turns out to be as big a stiff as he appears right now, this is a good trade. If he doesn't, not so good. A great point guard makes everyone around him better, Devin Harris did not.

Having watched Favors a few times recently it is hard to believe he will ever be more than a 14-8 type guy. He is like Joe Smith without the shooting range.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Having watched Favors a few times recently it is hard to believe he will ever be more than a 14-8 type guy. He is like Joe Smith without the shooting range.

I haven't followed the Nets closely this year (why would anyone want to?), but from what I have read, Favors work ethic isn't exactly where it needs to be. He is just 19, so immaturity isn't unusual, and he may grow up mentally at some point. I guess that's up to him.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by golfer

I haven't followed the Nets closely this year (why would anyone want to?), but from what I have read, Favors work ethic isn't exactly where it needs to be. He is just 19, so immaturity isn't unusual, and he may grow up mentally at some point. I guess that's up to him.

Well that and he is helpless more than 5 feet from the rim

[Cannon Shell]

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2011...oad/?eref=sihp

nice summary

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Having watched Favors a few times recently it is hard to believe he will ever be more than a 14-8 type guy. He is like Joe Smith without the shooting range.

I am trying to figure this trade out, if Favors is a 14 and 8 guy, and Harris averages about 8 assist a game and Williams over 9, and they get 4 1st rounders. How is this for sure a winner for Nj

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

I am trying to figure this trade out, if Favors is a 14 and 8 guy, and Harris averages about 8 assist a game and Williams over 9, and they get 4 1st rounders. How is this for sure a winner for Nj

Because 14-8 guys can be had for 3 mill a year, not get paid like the 3rd player drafted (and he is a long way from 14-8 right now) and you are comparing the output of 2 guys to 1. Williams is a 21-10 guy who can also play defense and is one of the 10 best players in the game. They got 2 first rounders, one is a protected pick which may not even be theirs for 2 or 3 years.

Draft picks in the NBA are not like draft picks in the NFL. A lot of the better teams that draft late simply sell off their 1st rounders for virtually nothing so they dont have to pay 1st round money for 3 years to players who are unlikely to contribute. This years draft is atrocious.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

Terrence Jones and Brandon Knight are p.ussies.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Because 14-8 guys can be had for 3 mill a year, not get paid like the 3rd player drafted (and he is a long way from 14-8 right now) and you are comparing the output of 2 guys to 1. Williams is a 21-10 guy who can also play defense and is one of the 10 best players in the game. They got 2 first rounders, one is a protected pick which may not even be theirs for 2 or 3 years.

Draft picks in the NBA are not like draft picks in the NFL. A lot of the better teams that draft late simply sell off their 1st rounders for virtually nothing so they dont have to pay 1st round money for 3 years to players who are unlikely to contribute. This years draft is atrocious.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

The third player in the NBA draft makes 3.3 million dollars this year, 3.5 the following and then 3.8.

High draft picks in basketball are better than high draft picks in the NFL in a lot of ways but importantly because the salary scale for rookies in the NBA is much less than in the NFL.