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[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

We should bring all of the troops home and cut foreign aid completely. It is not our responsibility to save other countries from ruin.

You have hit it right on the money. How much aid did these countries give the US when Louisiana got hit by Katrina? Didnt this country give aid for the tsunami victims?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You have hit it right on the money. How much aid did these countries give the US when Louisiana got hit by Katrina? Didnt this country give aid for the tsunami victims?

Aid offered by foreign countries and groups to help the U.S. with Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, according to the State Department:

* Afghanistan: $100,000
* Albania: $300,000 pledged
* Armenia: $200,000 pledged
* Australia: $7.6 million
* Austria: tarps, camp beds
* Azerbaijan: $500,000
* Bahamas: $50,000 pledged
* Bahrain: $5 million pledged
* Bangladesh: $1 million pledged
* Belgium: operations teams, generators, water pumps, nine-member logistical team to work with the Red Cross
* Bosnia/Herzegovina: $6,414 pledged
* Cambodia: $20,000 pledged
* Canada: $5 million pledged to the hurricane relief fund headed by former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, two Griffin helicopters, search and rescue teams, Air Canada evacuation flights, supplies, security team, three Canadian forces ships with three Sea King helicopters
* China: $5.1 million, 1,000 tents, 600 generators, bed sheets
* Cyprus: $50,000
* Djibouti: $50,000 pledged
* Equatorial Guinea: $500,000 pledged
* Eupropean Commission: Civil Protection Cooperative Mechanism activated
* France: 600 tents, supplies
* Gabon: $500,000 pledged
* Georgia: $50,000
* Germany: high-speed pumps, supplies
* Greece: two cruise ships
* Hungary: $5,000
* Iceland: $500,000 pledged to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
* International Committee of the Red Cross: Web-based tracking system for displaced people
* India: $5 million; 3,000 each of personal-hygiene kits, blankets and sheets; 150 tarps
* Iraq: $1 million pledged to the Red Cross via the Red Crescent
* Ireland: $1 million euro (about $1.24 million U.S.)
* Italy: generators, water pumps and purifiers, tents, supplies
* Japan: $200,000, $844,000 in supplies and private pledges of more than $1 million
* Kenya: $100,000
* Kuwait: $100 million plus an additional $400 million in oil products
* Malaysia: $1 million to the Red Cross
* Maldives: $25,000 to the Red Cross
* Mauritania: $200,000 from the American Mauritania Business Council to the Red Cross
* Mexico: 45 truckloads of supplies, transport vehicles, two field kitchens, two helicopters
* Mongolia: $50,000 pledged
* Morocco: $500,000 pledged
* Nepal: $25,000 pledged
* Netherlands: Levee inspection team to assist Army Corps of Engineers, water pumps, frigate
* New Zealand: $1.4 million to the Red Cross
* Nigeria: $1 million pledged
* Norway: $1.54 million in cash and supplies
* Oman: $15 million
* Organization of American States: $25,000, created fund for donations from member states to the International Committee of the Red Cross
* Pakistan: $1 million pledged to the Red Cross, supplies
* Palau: $50,000 pledged plus $50,000 donor drive
* Papua New Guinea: $10,000 to the Red Cross
* Qatar: $100 million pledged
* Republic of Korea: $30 million, supplies
* Russia: air transport, generators, tents, blankets, water, water pumps, supplies
* Sao Tome and Principe: $18,000 pledged
* Saudi Arabia: $5 million from Aramco, $250,000 from AGFUND
* Singapore: four helicopters
* Spain: relief supplies
* Sri Lanka: $25,000 to the Red Cross
* Sweden: telecommunications equipment
* Taiwan: $2 million, supplies
* Thailand: blankets, supplies
* United Arab Emirates: $100 million pledged
* Uganda: $200,000 pledged
* United Kingdom: relief supplies
* Venezuela: up to $1 million to the Red Cross and state governments
* Vietnam: $100,000 to victims
* Yemen: $100,000 to the Red Cross

SOURCE: State Department

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9282598/...ong_road_back/

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Aid offered by foreign countries and groups to help the U.S. with Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, according to the State Department:

* Afghanistan: $100,000
* Albania: $300,000 pledged
* Armenia: $200,000 pledged
* Australia: $7.6 million
* Austria: tarps, camp beds
* Azerbaijan: $500,000
* Bahamas: $50,000 pledged
* Bahrain: $5 million pledged
* Bangladesh: $1 million pledged
* Belgium: operations teams, generators, water pumps, nine-member logistical team to work with the Red Cross
* Bosnia/Herzegovina: $6,414 pledged
* Cambodia: $20,000 pledged
* Canada: $5 million pledged to the hurricane relief fund headed by former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, two Griffin helicopters, search and rescue teams, Air Canada evacuation flights, supplies, security team, three Canadian forces ships with three Sea King helicopters
* China: $5.1 million, 1,000 tents, 600 generators, bed sheets
* Cyprus: $50,000
* Djibouti: $50,000 pledged
* Equatorial Guinea: $500,000 pledged
* Eupropean Commission: Civil Protection Cooperative Mechanism activated
* France: 600 tents, supplies
* Gabon: $500,000 pledged
* Georgia: $50,000
* Germany: high-speed pumps, supplies
* Greece: two cruise ships
* Hungary: $5,000
* Iceland: $500,000 pledged to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund
* International Committee of the Red Cross: Web-based tracking system for displaced people
* India: $5 million; 3,000 each of personal-hygiene kits, blankets and sheets; 150 tarps
* Iraq: $1 million pledged to the Red Cross via the Red Crescent
* Ireland: $1 million euro (about $1.24 million U.S.)
* Italy: generators, water pumps and purifiers, tents, supplies
* Japan: $200,000, $844,000 in supplies and private pledges of more than $1 million
* Kenya: $100,000
* Kuwait: $100 million plus an additional $400 million in oil products
* Malaysia: $1 million to the Red Cross
* Maldives: $25,000 to the Red Cross
* Mauritania: $200,000 from the American Mauritania Business Council to the Red Cross
* Mexico: 45 truckloads of supplies, transport vehicles, two field kitchens, two helicopters
* Mongolia: $50,000 pledged
* Morocco: $500,000 pledged
* Nepal: $25,000 pledged
* Netherlands: Levee inspection team to assist Army Corps of Engineers, water pumps, frigate
* New Zealand: $1.4 million to the Red Cross
* Nigeria: $1 million pledged
* Norway: $1.54 million in cash and supplies
* Oman: $15 million
* Organization of American States: $25,000, created fund for donations from member states to the International Committee of the Red Cross
* Pakistan: $1 million pledged to the Red Cross, supplies
* Palau: $50,000 pledged plus $50,000 donor drive
* Papua New Guinea: $10,000 to the Red Cross
* Qatar: $100 million pledged
* Republic of Korea: $30 million, supplies
* Russia: air transport, generators, tents, blankets, water, water pumps, supplies
* Sao Tome and Principe: $18,000 pledged
* Saudi Arabia: $5 million from Aramco, $250,000 from AGFUND
* Singapore: four helicopters
* Spain: relief supplies
* Sri Lanka: $25,000 to the Red Cross
* Sweden: telecommunications equipment
* Taiwan: $2 million, supplies
* Thailand: blankets, supplies
* United Arab Emirates: $100 million pledged
* Uganda: $200,000 pledged
* United Kingdom: relief supplies
* Venezuela: up to $1 million to the Red Cross and state governments
* Vietnam: $100,000 to victims
* Yemen: $100,000 to the Red Cross

SOURCE: State Department

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9282598/...ong_road_back/

Some countries did offer aid. Did all the countries the US helps offer aid? I dont see Egypt or Haiti on the list.

[Nascar1966]

Maybe if the illegals didnt get thier freebies there would less of a deficit.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Maybe if the illegals didnt get thier freebies there would less of a deficit.

yeah, you really need to let that go. that's a red herring you've latched onto for sure, and is not one of the big problems this country is facing.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, you really need to let that go. that's a red herring you've latched onto for sure, and is not one of the big problems this country is facing.

Its not one of the problems this country faces? Why dont we just open the borders up and let everyone come here then. Including all the terrorists who hate this country.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Its not one of the problems this country faces? Why dont we just open the borders up and let everyone come here then. Including all the terrorists who hate this country.

why don't we let them all in? saying you're overstating a problem doesn't mean i think we should 'let them all in'. you're being silly about that part. i'm saying you're overstating the issue, or listening to someone else who is overstating it. the state and fed budgets aren't busting because of undocumented workers. if they were the cause of money isses, the fed would have run them out of this country a while ago. do you really, truly think the govt would choose to lose money by ignoring a real problem? or is there a distinct reason to think they've done nothing because it's not worth doing something about?? i choose the latter. there are very pressing issues facing us-it's a gross oversimplification to blame it on 'illegals'. but they are such a convenient scapegoat. i'm sorry you've chosen to ignore all the evidence put on here lately to the contrary, and instead wish to continue parroting that line.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Some countries did offer aid. Did all the countries the US helps offer aid? I dont see Egypt or Haiti on the list.

Haiti is a very poor country. Egypt is a very poor country, except for their ousted President who is worth 70 billion.

More telling... where is Israel on that list?

* Kuwait: $100 million plus an additional $400 million in oil products
* Qatar: $100 million pledged
* Saudi Arabia: $5 million from Aramco, $250,000 from AGFUND
* Bahrain: $5 million pledged
* Oman: $15 million
* United Arab Emirates: $100 million pledged

* Saudi Arabia: $5 million from Aramco, $250,000 from AGFUND

So Egypt donated $0? He's regretting that now. All those years of playing squirrel with our nuts has caught up with him.

Kuwait, Qatar, UAE made the right offer. Very savvy on their part.

The Saudis. That's going to be the real turning point in the Middle East. If the House of Saud falls it could change everything for the better. Give the youth a voice and we'll see if they want a Benz with a trophy wife or a camel and a bee-keeper wife.

* Australia: $7.6 million

Never met an Australian I didn't like. Yahoo Serious, excluded.

* China: $5.1 million, 1,000 tents, 600 generators, bed sheets
* Taiwan: $2 million, supplies

We should side with Taiwan but will we?